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Fred Thompson: Liberal in Disguise (Calling all Fredheads! Debunk the misinformation!)
News Blaze ^ | 04/20/2007 | Basil Harrington

Posted on 04/20/2007 6:02:18 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

It seems that conservatives are about to make the same mistake that they made in 2000. Every Cassandra warned the movement conservatives that GW Bush was a liberal, but they were all duped by his "compassionate conservatism," which we since have learned really means "liberal globalism."

Now, despite all the warnings, they are about to be conned by Fred Thompson too - another neocon (aka liberal globalist). Will they get what they deserve? Can people really be so shortsighted? In 2011 will we hear GOP cheerleaders, "If only I had known...."

Let's look at Fred Thompson on the issues.

First and foremost, let's ponder immigration, the greatest threat facing the West today. As Jean Raspail foretold in Camp of the Saints, the "best conservative novel ever written," a third-world invasion of the West is taking place, and we must make a stand - before it is too late.

Although tough talking on border control, Fred Thompson has a rather weak record from his time in the Senate. Americans for Better Immigration only gave him a career grade of C. And on chain migration, visa lotteries, reducing unnecessary visas, asylum fraud, and reducing amnesties, he received rather low marks.

Thompson is almost certainly pro-abortion, regardless what he feigns. He has said, "The ultimate decision must be made by the woman." In other words, he believes it's a "choice."

Thompson is pro-affirmative action, and his two votes in the Senate guaranteed that under-qualified minorities would be given preference over Euro-Americans (i.e. white people). Thompson obviously believes that victimology should trump hard work.

And like all neocons, Thompson supports free trade, which is destroying our economy and undermining our sovereignty. Historically, conservatives opposed free trade, and they should; it's national suicide. But Thompson like many GOP cheerleaders has been "neoconned" on this issue.

In foreign policy, Fred Thompson is an adamant neocon globalist. He is a fellow at the neocon American Enterprise Institute, and a member of the neocon / neoliberal Council on Foreign Relations, which supports the creation of a North American Union and the eradication of American sovereignty.

In short, Fred Thompson is no real conservative. He's a neocon globalist. Only look at his past actions, memberships and words.

We already have three real conservatives in the running (Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul, and Duncan Hunter) and let's give them the support they deserve. If Fred Thompson receives the nomination, I'm voting Constitution Party.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: acquittal; clinton; electionpresident; elections; fredthompson; impeachment; runfredrun; stoprudy2008; thompson
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To: traderrob6

LOL. Sounds like it.


61 posted on 04/20/2007 6:44:49 AM PDT by pissant
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To: kevkrom

Exactly, and we’re never going to find perfection this side of heaven. We have to go for the best we can get and for me, this year, it’s Fred.


62 posted on 04/20/2007 6:45:17 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Spiff

I don’t know if Thompson is more conservative than Bush, but Thompson has a lot more common sense than Bush.

I can’t imagine Thompson having Alberto Gonzalez as his Attorney General. Heck, Thompson would be a better AG than Gonzalez. If he doesn’t run for President, maybe Bush could put him in the AG slot?


63 posted on 04/20/2007 6:45:19 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: kevkrom
Indeed. One of the biggest knocks on Thompson is how he got "steamrolled" by Glenn on the Chinagate investigation. He was naive enough (at the time) to think that both parties were interested in getting rid of corruption, and was sandbagged by the Democrats tanking the investigation for political reasons.

Remember who his repub teammates were? I specifically remember Susan Collins on that committee.

I figured that the farce of a hearing was a large reason Fred decided to leave the Senate and why he originally supported McCain-Feingold.

64 posted on 04/20/2007 6:46:36 AM PDT by Mensius
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

What is his Second Amendment record?


65 posted on 04/20/2007 6:47:15 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: longtermmemmory

66 posted on 04/20/2007 6:47:22 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: SE Mom

I listened to Ron Paul for the first time last night. He was completely uninspiring.


67 posted on 04/20/2007 6:47:41 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Don’t to forget to rub his nose in Bush Supreme Court Nominees Roberts and Alito. Many unborn children have a chance at life thanks to them.
68 posted on 04/20/2007 6:48:12 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Baynative

Perhaps, but I can’t abide by this guys reasoning.


69 posted on 04/20/2007 6:48:38 AM PDT by pissant
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To: dirtboy; Spiff

I’ve found it remarkable that, over the past month, the people most attacking Fred for not being conservative have been the Rudy people, who supposedly are the “broken glass” republicans who will vote for anything with an “R” next to their name (even if it’s just because the first name STARTS with R), while the supposedly “intransigent” right-wingers are willing to consider Thompson.

In fact, the Rudy people point to that willingness and laugh about how quick others are to “abandon” their own candidates while they cling senselessly to theirs.


70 posted on 04/20/2007 6:48:42 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Post-Neolithic

Post-Neolithic wrote: “CFR is nothing but a front for those that would eliminate the United States Of America.”

Ah, more conspiracy theory. It always “adds to the discussion.” /sarcasm

CFR is nothing more than a think tank where people debate foreign policy issues. But if you have credible evidence to dispute this fact, let’s see it. (sound of crickets chirping...)


71 posted on 04/20/2007 6:49:02 AM PDT by Josh Painter (Draft Fred Thompson: the grassroots "surge that will transform the Republican race." - The Hill)
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To: kevkrom
I think his disgust with all of that is what led him to support McCain-Feingold, though he's pretty clear that Mc-F isn't working like he hoped.

The Committee that Thompson chaired was the one that helped write CFR. We see what an attempted First-Amendment infringement fiasco CFR turned into.

What does that say about Thompson's capability for developing legislation? He was for it, before he was against it?

FReepers were all over Kerry for such flipflopping, yet many of them seem more than willing to give Thompson (and the other GOP potential candidates) passes from their newly-revised-finger-in-the-wind changes in their political views.

[Leopards don't change their spots, and neither do most politicians after they get elected.]
72 posted on 04/20/2007 6:49:48 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Spiff

Thompson is definitely the man who can win. He just needs to get busy and we need that address to where we can send contributions. (And I don’t mean old clothes and worn out household items.)


73 posted on 04/20/2007 6:51:15 AM PDT by EShellenberger
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To: TomGuy

I would like to know whether Fred Thompson supports the idea of the NAU as the antagonists describe it. Just being a member of an organization does not signal lock-step agreement with all it’s positions, and I’m still not convinced that the organization actually supports an NAU that would be as the opponents describe it.

I can see some value in NAU as a way to address common concerns of the people of North America. There are some issues that effect the entire continent, and having a group dedicated to addressing those issues is a good thing, so long as it is an advisory group subject to the will of governments of the people.


74 posted on 04/20/2007 6:51:40 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TomGuy
What does that say about Thompson's capability for developing legislation? He was for it, before he was against it?

Ah, the old 'flip-flop' argument. No, Thompson has not flip-flopped. He still strongly favors trying to clean up campaign financing, but he now realizes that McCain-Feingold isn't the right way to do it.

Do I wish he'd have realized this before? Yes. Would I prefer he had come to the conclusion on Constitutional grounds rather than effectiveness (or lack thereof)? Of course.

75 posted on 04/20/2007 6:53:40 AM PDT by kevkrom (Al Gore is to Global Warming as L. Ron Hubbard is to Scientology)
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To: Sturm Ruger
Actually, if you look at the GOP candidates from the viewpoint of which ones have traction and which ones don’t...

What does that mean? You have arbitrarily decided some of the candidates can't win the nomination so they are out of the race?

I guess you can support any argument if you jigger the conditions enough.

76 posted on 04/20/2007 6:54:35 AM PDT by NCSteve (What good is it if you're wearing your superman underwear and can't show it to anyone?)
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To: Sturm Ruger
"CFR is nothing more than a think tank where people debate foreign policy issues. But if you have credible evidence to dispute this fact, let’s see it. (sound of crickets chirping...)

Taken directly from the source

CFR's Global Policy

77 posted on 04/20/2007 6:55:21 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Xenophobia is not his bag. As the history of the Know-Nothings tells us, it is never a good thing to let racism tar the genuine concerns a group has about immigration. The Blaine Amendment. which was the work of the Know-Nothings who joined the Republican Party and became law in so many states, delivered the Irish Catholic vote to the Democrats until communism became an issue after world War II.


78 posted on 04/20/2007 6:55:34 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: freekitty
Freekitty wrote:
I won’t settle for anything but a conservative.

In that case, I predict you'll have to "settle".... for Hillary!

- John

79 posted on 04/20/2007 6:57:07 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: kevkrom

It’s funny watching Rudy supporters use “John Glenn” as if that proves Thompson is unfit, when there are many specific cases where Rudy backed down.

For example, we know that Rudy appointed hardly any conservative or even republican judges. Rudy supporters tell us that is because he had to give in to the democrats on the “judge board” who picked the candidates he could choose. He of course was personally responsible for almost half the people sitting on that board, but we are told Rudy had to put democrats there to get along.

And Rudy had to march in the Gay Pride parade, and he had to speak at the NARAL event. And because he was in New York City, he had to support abortion, and gun control.

Rudy apparently spent most of his time as Mayor knuckling under on social issues to the liberals.


80 posted on 04/20/2007 6:58:45 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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