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Giuliani Defends Pro-Choice Stance
WNBC, NY ^ | April 5, 2007

Posted on 04/05/2007 11:53:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani on Thursday defended his record favoring the use of public money for abortions, saying he wouldn't try to undo a Supreme Court ruling allowing the procedures.

"Ultimately I believe it's an individual right and a woman should make that choice," the former New York mayor said during a Statehouse news conference where he picked up three endorsements.

Support for abortion rights is unpopular with conservatives who dominate the GOP in South Carolina, an early voting state.

"I tell people what I think. I tell them (to) evaluate me as I am and do not expect them to agree with me on everything. I don't agree with me on everything," Giuliani said. "If that's the most important thing, then I'm comfortable with the fact you won't vote for me."

The comments came as South Carolina lawmakers push a measure that would require women seeking abortions to first view ultrasound images of their fetus. If the South Carolina measure is approved, the state would be the first to make such a requirement. Other states require the images be made available to women.

Giuliani said states should make the call on such issues. "The Legislature of South Carolina should make its decision about that," he said. He also said states should make the decision whether to use public money for abortions.

Conservatives and political experts in South Carolina said Giuliani's moderate stance abortion will hamper his ability to win votes here.

"He's toast," said Clemson University political scientist Dave Woodard. "I think it's going to be really hard for him to overcome this in South Carolina."

While Republicans in South Carolina oppose abortion by degrees -- allowing abortions in certain circumstances, such as a mother's health, rape or incest -- there's little room on public financing, said Oran Smith, executive director of the Palmetto Family Council, an anti-abortion group.

"That's usually one of the first things off the list when you talk about things related to abortion," Smith said.

Some Giuliani supporters said the abortion issue doesn't bother them. "I'm really for the whole package. I feel like I'm comfortable being for him," said Rosemary Byerly, a staunch abortion opponent from Inman.

But Alexia Newman, a state Republican Party first vice chairwoman who runs Spartanburg's Carolina Pregnancy Center, said she felt duped by Giuliani's recent comments to the state Republican executive committee that if elected he would appoint judges who favor a strict interpretation of the Constitution to the Supreme Court.

However, Giuliani said those comments weren't a nod in the direction of undoing Roe v. Wade.

"If I'm going to appoint strict constructionist judges, which I'm going to do, for the reason that they are going to strictly interpret the Constitution, then, as president, I have to be a strict constructionist," Giuliani said. "The present state of the law on these issues is not something that I would seek to change."

Giuliani also said the state should be left to make its own decision about the Confederate flag, which flies outside the Statehouse.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; giuliani; life; rudy; rudy08; rudy2008; women
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1 posted on 04/05/2007 11:53:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

...And the hits just keep on comin’!


2 posted on 04/05/2007 11:53:57 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"He's toast," said Clemson University political scientist Dave Woodard. "I think it's going to be really hard for him to overcome this in South Carolina."

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3 posted on 04/05/2007 11:55:13 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI: I have to reexamine those issues, and exactly what was at stake then, it was a long time ago, but generally that’s my view. Abortion is wrong, abortion shouldn’t happen, personally you should counsel people to that extent. When I was mayor, adoptions went up, abortions went down, but ultimately it’s a constitutional right and therefore if it’s a constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it state by state basis, you have to make sure people are protected.

BASH: So you support taxpayer money or public funding for abortion in some cases?

GIULIANI: If it would deprive someone of a constitutional right, yes, if that’s the status of the law, then I would yes.

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/132126.aspx


4 posted on 04/05/2007 11:55:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TommyDale

Not toast.

I think Rudy Giuliani is going to play well in Peoria.


5 posted on 04/05/2007 11:56:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What a dirtbag. Anyone who gives a damn about The Constitution should avoid this POS like the plague.


6 posted on 04/05/2007 11:57:19 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (One fish, two fish, I want to go catch bluefish.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I tell people what I think. I tell them (to) evaluate me as I am and do not expect them to agree with me on everything. I don't agree with me on everything," Giuliani said. "If that's the most important thing, then I'm comfortable with the fact you won't vote for me."

This is why he will win South Carolina. He has the integrity to remain true to his views - even if we disagree with those views.

7 posted on 04/05/2007 11:58:10 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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8 posted on 04/05/2007 11:58:14 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: Jake The Goose

Exactly.


9 posted on 04/05/2007 11:59:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hmmm ... Rudy apparently has decided he can foresake the pro-life vote AND the NRA vote.

He's pro-war, and the electorate gets much more anti-war the further leftward one goes.

So just where will Rudy make up the lost pro-life and pro-gun votes? Cemetaries? Oops, the dead vote Dem as well.

10 posted on 04/05/2007 11:59:40 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Jake The Goose

Yes - he is what he says he is. Anyone who panders is a liar. He’s not pandering for anyone.


11 posted on 04/05/2007 12:00:02 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: dirtboy
the NRA vote.

Looks like McCain will get the NRA vote from what I've seen.

12 posted on 04/05/2007 12:00:48 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

Yes indeed - I am surprised people can’t disagree with him and still respect the man.

Oh well - there you go...


13 posted on 04/05/2007 12:01:21 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose
This is why he will win South Carolina. He has the integrity to remain true to his views - even if we disagree with those views.

Oh please. What are his views on abortion? See the answer below and tell me it wasn't "focus group tested."

MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI: I have to reexamine those issues, and exactly what was at stake then, it was a long time ago, but generally that’s my view. Abortion is wrong, abortion shouldn’t happen, personally you should counsel people to that extent. When I was mayor, adoptions went up, abortions went down, but ultimately it’s a constitutional right and therefore if it’s a constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it state by state basis, you have to make sure people are protected.

Rudy has no integrity. He's a colossal fraud.
14 posted on 04/05/2007 12:02:04 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: areafiftyone

McCain won’t get my NRA vote.

Don’t group the NRA into a lump vote - that won’t hold true.


15 posted on 04/05/2007 12:02:28 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: areafiftyone
Looks like McCain will get the NRA vote from what I've seen.

It would go to Fred if he enters the race, or probably Hunter if Fred does not.

But I'm really talking general election here. Rudy just basically dropped his pretense of moving rightwards to accomodate the pro-life vote. His gun-control record is atrocious. Where is he going to get the votes to make up for losses on the right at the rate he is going if he wins the nomination?

16 posted on 04/05/2007 12:02:39 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Jake The Goose
Yes indeed - I am surprised people can’t disagree with him and still respect the man.

I don't tend to respect people who think it's a woman's constitutional right to destroy babies in the womb. Such individuals are not worthy of respect or high office.

People who don't respect unborn life tend to have little respect for born life, either.
17 posted on 04/05/2007 12:03:59 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: Antoninus

In the mean time - Duncan Hunter is surging in the polls.

Oh wait - I had the polls upside down.


18 posted on 04/05/2007 12:04:26 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, the only way a Prez can affect whether Roe v Wade is overturned is in the choice of judges for the SCOTUS. This seems to mean Rudy would give us more Souters, Ginzburgs, et al.


19 posted on 04/05/2007 12:04:41 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Jake The Goose

LOL!


20 posted on 04/05/2007 12:05:33 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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