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Giuliani Defends Pro-Choice Stance
WNBC, NY ^ | April 5, 2007

Posted on 04/05/2007 11:53:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Sans-Culotte
That would have to mean he will not appoint the sort of conservative, "strict constructionist" judges he's been claiming he would. If he does, then his statement above is a lie.

Except I already showed you just how loosely he defines strict constructionism.

Throw in the fact that he hates abortion so much that he addressed NARAL twice, and he cannot possibly present any positive to the pro-life movement now.

41 posted on 04/05/2007 12:14:43 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: HitmanLV

Why are you so logical? It’s not allowed on a Rudy bashing post! ;-)


42 posted on 04/05/2007 12:14:54 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Jake The Goose

Thanks...I’ve actually two of them....


43 posted on 04/05/2007 12:15:41 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: HitmanLV
..............If all my eggs were in the pro life basket, I would be worried too.

Thoughtful post.

44 posted on 04/05/2007 12:15:58 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Sans-Culotte

Duncan would be my candidate but he’s a 2 percenter. Let’s get real. The idea is to make sure Hitlary/Clintonista’s don’t set foot in the WH again. Anyone who doesn’t see that is not too bright.

The name of the game is to WIN.


45 posted on 04/05/2007 12:16:11 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: Gracey
I see the Leftist media got to you. They are asking Rudy “Gotcha” questions to dissuade R’s from considering voting for him.

No, I'd say they "got" Rudy. But even if Rudy is pro choice in his heart of hearts, he should not have replied the way he did. One can be pro-choice while recognizing that the SCOTUS over-stepped its bounds in 1973.

46 posted on 04/05/2007 12:16:20 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Gracey

Well the latest Fox poll said the American people think a Democrat will win in 2008. And I believe that if the Conservatives play dirty and alienate their top three candidates they will LOSE just like the American people say they will.


47 posted on 04/05/2007 12:16:52 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: rjp2005
That’s too bad Rudy. You’re not fit to be President.

President? Yes.

Pope? Probably not.

48 posted on 04/05/2007 12:17:06 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HitmanLV

Wow - that’s an interesting observation.


49 posted on 04/05/2007 12:17:18 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

((((PING))))


50 posted on 04/05/2007 12:17:36 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

I’m a maverick. First I try to see things clearly. Then I think about it, and draw meaningful conclusions.

Increasingly on both sides of the political aisle, I see people coming to their conclusion first and then try and figure out how to justify it.

Bad form, for liberals or conservatives.


51 posted on 04/05/2007 12:18:04 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: dirtboy
Except I already showed you just how loosely he defines strict constructionism.

But...doesn't it depend on what Rudy's definition of the word "is" is...?

52 posted on 04/05/2007 12:18:09 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s showing a nice sense of humor - I laughed anyway.


53 posted on 04/05/2007 12:18:21 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I try to call them like they are, even if I don’t like what I see.


54 posted on 04/05/2007 12:19:18 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV

The tide is turning indeed - against the pro aborts! Pro lifers are growing within the Democratic party at the grass roots level, challenging the totalitarian party line.

The public tide is going to force Dems in office to change their positions. Watch for it.


55 posted on 04/05/2007 12:19:35 PM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: areafiftyone
Seems like these conservative judges that we have are doing it right now and have been.

Hardly. I don't think there has been a major SCOTUS abortion decision since Planned Parenthood v. Casey, and in that case the majority was O’Conner, Kennedy, Souter, Blackmun and Stevens.

Alito has now replaced O'Conner. Kennedy is the only swing vote, and from what I have heard, he feels conned by being convinced to vote with the majority in Casey and is moving back more to a pro-life stance.

So would Rudy appoint another strict constructionist who would overturn Roe as activism? Or keep it as precedent?

The tiebreaker goes to Rudy saying presidents appoint judges who agree with a president's basic philosophy. And he is showing himself to be pro-choice in his recent statements.

Rudy would NOT be a catalyst for overturning Roe. His past efforts at smoke and mirrors have been shown as just that.

56 posted on 04/05/2007 12:19:49 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Jake The Goose

I take no pleasure in it, as I have been pro life my entire life. But I gotta call it like it is.


57 posted on 04/05/2007 12:20:22 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV
I try to call them like they are, even if I don’t like what I see.

My compliments for reasoned and rare discussion.

58 posted on 04/05/2007 12:20:51 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: areafiftyone
And I believe that if the Conservatives play dirty and alienate their top three candidates they will LOSE just like the American people say they will.

That's a hoot. Americans are looking at the current top three GOP candidates and deciding the Dems will win. What does that say about the top three?

59 posted on 04/05/2007 12:21:06 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: rjp2005

I will tell you what might help change the tide to more pro-life. Those wonderful specials on filming inside the womb, like the one National Geographic did.

If you can watch that and not love life - you need to watch it again.

Beautiful.


60 posted on 04/05/2007 12:21:55 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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