Giuliani Defends Pro-Choice Stance

WNBC, NY ^ | April 5, 2007

[George W. Bush]

Judge Roberts needed 60 Senate votes to be confirmed. Rudy would need 50.1 percent of American electoral votes to win. Big difference.

Stare decisis will, of course, stand in the Roberts Court.

Until such time as evidence accumulates that it was wrongly decided and must be overturned and sent back to the legislative branch. Or overturned in favor of evidence that human life begins much earlier than was believed at the time Roe was decided (and sufficient medical evidence already does exist).

[George W. Bush]

I don't understand why you guys just can't start up a RudyRepublic.com or some type of blog for Rudy website, where you can praise Giuliani to your heart's content.

They already have with at least one pro-Rudi forum which allows only liberal FReepers there. And they have an additional secret forum there. This was all exposed here the other day on a thread that got so rancorous the mods pulled it. Essentially, it's another AF forum in the making. They even chose to pick a fight here that day on a thread about keywords just to cause disaffection deliberately during an FR fundraiser. They're trying to lure gullible people there, often via links here to their Google Groups and Giuliani blogs.

I know JimRob's commitment to free speech and his level-headed approach to other forums. But sometimes he does verge on being too generous and tolerant about this.

[mkjessup]

They already have with at least one pro-Rudi forum which allows only liberal FReepers there. And they have an additional secret forum there.

Ahhh a 'double-secret-probation-forum', eh? I think they should be not on probation, but on community service at a minimum.

This was all exposed here the other day on a thread that got so rancorous the mods pulled it.

If I'm not mistaken, it was JimRob himself who finally and literally said 'enough!' and rightly so.

Essentially, it's another AF forum in the making. They even chose to pick a fight here that day on a thread about keywords just to cause disaffection deliberately during an FR fundraiser. They're trying to lure gullible people there, often via links here to their Google Groups and Giuliani blogs.

I'm waiting for the website 'rinos4rudy.com' to go active.
That will have the RudyBots shrieking murder most foul I suspect...

I know JimRob's commitment to free speech and his level-headed approach to other forums. But sometimes he does verge on being too generous and tolerant about this.

I'd like to think that Jim already has foreseen that the Rudy-Tooty-Bandwagon and all the FR groupies who have sadly piled on will eventually derail on it's own, and Rudy is helping to achieve that: witness the Drudge-linked story on Rudy introducing himself with a Vito Corelone impression, much to the consternation of Italian Americans who have had to deal with that characterization for way too many years. Rudy is his own worst enemy.

I'll be surprised if Rudy hasn't withdrawn from the race by Labor Day.

[Hydroshock]

There are others running you know.

[dirtboy]

Rudy is helping to achieve that: witness the Drudge-linked story on Rudy introducing himself with a Vito Corelone impression, much to the consternation of Italian Americans who have had to deal with that characterization for way too many years. Rudy is his own worst enemy.

I can now see why Rudy is anti-gun, seeing how many bullets he's pumped into his own feet in the course of ten days.

[George W. Bush]

I'd like to think that Jim already has foreseen that the Rudy-Tooty-Bandwagon and all the FR groupies who have sadly piled on will eventually derail on it's own, and Rudy is helping to achieve that: witness the Drudge-linked story on Rudy introducing himself with a Vito Corelone impression, much to the consternation of Italian Americans who have had to deal with that characterization for way too many years. Rudy is his own worst enemy.

Wow, I have to go look. Is there a thread here? After all they've done in recent years to speak out against the Hollywood stereotype, he does something like that. It's like the man is completely tone-deaf culturally. Even to his own ethnic group. It's no more funny than Condi Rice doing an Aunt Jemima imitation. (Aunt Jemima is fine with me as a campy humor thing but a serious political candidate shouldn't exploit sterotypes.) It's like when he was interviewed about being so liberal and joked "Maybe now people won't accuse me of being part of the vast right-wing conspiracy. No, Rudy, there's no danger you'll be accused of that! At least, by any conservative. You're very very safe, little Rudi.

I'll be surprised if Rudy hasn't withdrawn from the race by Labor Day.

I've been saying the same recently.

[George W. Bush]

I can now see why Rudy is anti-gun, seeing how many bullets he's pumped into his own feet in the course of ten days.

I'm waiting for him to borrow George Allen's cowboy boots and hat and add the word 'macaca' to his vocabulary.

[phillyfanatic]

Well perhaps the Pubs don’t want to nominate anyone! Let’s see how that will work. Allow the Dems to annoint their candidate because the Pub Purists could not agree on any winning candidate. Unless the Party unites around someone and stops bitching and staying at home, the Dems will roast them to toast. If Rudy, Mitt, Fred win the nomination, I will support them because I want to win.

[dirtboy]

Allow the Dems to annoint their candidate because the Pub Purists could not agree on any winning

Blah blah PURIST blah blah blah UNAPPEASABLE blah blah 100 PERCENTER blah blah blah blah blah.

Fred is hardly a 100 percent pure conservative. Yet he has seen a groundswell of support on FR from folks the Rudy boosters have been trying to brand as unappeasible. So please, get another routine. That one has been overtaken by events. And as often happens, Rudy's conservative critics are now being shown to be correct - witness Rudy's gaffes over the last few days over abortion.

[rintense]

If this were the only thing Rudy were opposite of on the GOP platform, it wouldn't be that bad. And there are those who are single issue voters on the right, with abortion being their one issue. And that's ok.

But the problem isn't just abortion. It's his views regarding 'regulating' gun ownership- another view contrary to the GOP platform. It's his oh-so waffling views on gay marriage/rights. It's his do-nothing solution to illegal immigration. It's his cut taxes but increase spending approach to fiscal management. It's his growing words that show a terrible lack of understanding of the Constitution and interpretations of law.

Which brings us to the one issue that he does have in common with the GOP platform- the War on Terror and Iraq.

And since I am not a one issue voter, even though I know the WoT is huge, I simply can not lend my support to Rudy- because it isn't one thing: it is many.