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Statistical Analysis Debunks Climate Change Naysayers
ScienceDaily ^ | March 19, 2007 | Thompson Rivers University

Posted on 03/20/2007 2:26:48 AM PDT by ricks_place

In a thought-provoking statistical analysis, Dr. Peter Tsigaris of Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops, BC, Canada, concludes that whether or not climate change can be wholly attributed to human factors, it makes strong economic and environmental sense to treat it as human-caused and take action now.

Despite the fact that the hundreds of scientists and reviewers on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change announced Feb. 2 in Paris that global warming is "very likely" caused by human activity, governments and other policy-makers may still justify inaction because of naysayers like Danish weather scientist Henrik Svensmark, who maintains that global climate change can be attributed to the proportion of cosmic rays in our atmosphere, and atmospheric physicist S. Fred Singer, who asserts that “The whole question of anthropogenic, or human-caused, global warming is central to setting any policy of climate mitigation and therefore warrants closer examination.”

“These arguments are moot,” says Peter Tsigaris, an economist at Thompson Rivers University, in Kamloops, BC. He continues: “The important question is the cost of these opinions being wrong relative to the cost of the IPCC report being wrong in its assessment.” In a thought-provoking statistical analysis, Tsigaris has concluded that whether or not climate change can be wholly attributed to human factors, it makes strong business and environmental sense to take action and mitigate the effects of global warming beyond taking measures to adopt.

He arrived at this conclusion as a result of creating the solution for a question he posed to his statistics students.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencedaily.com ...


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Newswise 4/30/06 — Consumers who think the cost of gas is high now haven’t seen anything yet, says Dr. Peter Tsigaris of Thompson Rivers University in Kamloops, BC, Canada.

The public-finance economist argues that supply-side economics is only a part of an overall equation that could, and should, see gas prices rise even further.

“Sooner, rather than later, society is going to have to factor in the cost of carbon dioxide (CO2) damage to our environment, particularly in the form of global warming. While we can’t really set a price on endangered species and threatened ecosystems, we are going to have to pay to mitigate effects like storm damage, rising sea levels and the like,” he says.

1 posted on 03/20/2007 2:26:51 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place

" whether or not climate change can be wholly attributed to human factors, it makes strong economic and environmental sense to treat it as human-caused and take action now. "

IOW --

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!!"

Sophistry at its finest.....


2 posted on 03/20/2007 2:31:59 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Aspiring Guru Seeks Disciples and Admiring Followers -- apply within)
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To: ricks_place

A fundamental axiom in statistics is "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.". I suspect we are witnessing a case of "garbage in, garbage out" a bit analogous to results of studies of non-thermal effects of electromagnetic fields (EMF).


3 posted on 03/20/2007 2:31:59 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (The US Founding is what makes Britain and USA separated by much more than a common language.)
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To: ricks_place
" whether or not climate change can be wholly attributed to human factors, it makes strong economic and environmental sense to treat it as human-caused and take action now. " Every scam artist in the world would like their victims to use that same pathetic reasoning. No surpise he's a "public" finance economist. No surprise he's a Canadian.
4 posted on 03/20/2007 2:36:28 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: ricks_place

[Tsigaris has concluded that whether or not climate change can be wholly attributed to human factors, it makes strong business and environmental sense to take action...]

Tell it to the starving, dying poor in Africa's developing countries, where oil and coal reserves are plentiful. I believe that they may have a different priority for their business and environmental interests. If this whole GW scam wasn't so dangerous, it would be laughable.


5 posted on 03/20/2007 2:37:50 AM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: ricks_place
So, whether or not it's our fault, we should treat it as if it is our fault?

Huh?????????

6 posted on 03/20/2007 2:39:11 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: Uncle Ike

A ha, this is my field of studies when I did my Masters degree. I was doing a statistical analysis of RF-range EMF and its effects on human health. You can produce a mathematical model that "proves" the existence of harmful effects, but some critical foundations of the model itself is based on numerous assumptions that may not have any scientific basis at all.


7 posted on 03/20/2007 2:39:16 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (The US Founding is what makes Britain and USA separated by much more than a common language.)
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To: ricks_place
The whole "Global Warming" push has nothing to do with climate change. It has do do with Socialists using climate change as an excuse to push their socialist agenda with the hope of passing legislation on the national and worldwide level to control the masses.
8 posted on 03/20/2007 2:41:30 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: ricks_place

The budget for Near Earth Asteroid research is 3 Million maybe? We spend significant portions of the american GDP on gorebal warming political alarmism. If you were to divert a fraction of that budget towards Near Earth Asteroid Research and applying research to mitigating that risk we'd benefit on the environmental level just from the spinoff technology.


9 posted on 03/20/2007 2:48:56 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: jim35
Watch this for further proof of the GW hoax:

(undeveloped countries need not apply....)

10 posted on 03/20/2007 2:57:41 AM PDT by yoe
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To: ricks_place
"Rising sea levels, temperature and precipitation caused by human lifestyles will have an impact on our health, agriculture, forestry, water, coastal areas, as well as on other species and natural areas," he says, adding that "this analysis also confirms the Stern Review on The Economics of Climate Change which suggests that the cost of taking action today is way less than the cost of continuing the current path we have chosen."

Sounds like his statistical conclusion is based on some speculation about evil Bush warming consequences. He assumes there are no good consequences. He swallows the rising sea levels tripe even though man will have no discernable effect on sea levels no matter what we do.

11 posted on 03/20/2007 3:06:02 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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"Tsigaris has concluded that whether or not climate change can be wholly attributed to human factors, it makes strong business and environmental sense to take action and mitigate the effects of global warming beyond taking measures to adopt."

A) Discounting actual attributable correlations

B) Argues for an unsubstantiated, BS premise.

And this bozo is a stat prof???????????

Turn in you normal distribution buddy.
12 posted on 03/20/2007 3:13:23 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: ricks_place

You have to get 3 paragraphs into the article to see that the esteemed professor is an economist.


13 posted on 03/20/2007 3:21:38 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: ricks_place
For the past 30 years these people have been saying we've only got 5-10 to fix global warming (we're all going to die). But the problem with all this global warming (we're all going to die) hype is that every time I go to the ocean, and I live on the coast, the ocean is in the same place it was the last time I went to the ocean.

I'll make this bet with any global warming (we're all going to die) nut: If we make no changes in our environmental laws and no changes in our Social Security laws, then Social Security will go under financially before Times Square is below the mean sea level.
14 posted on 03/20/2007 3:25:22 AM PDT by libertylover (Liberals: Trying to convert the U.S. into a country the Founding Father's wouldn't recognize.)
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To: jim35

It's only dangerous because the wrong people own this political horse.

If GW meant that we had to develope nuclear energy (e.g. fusion or smaller more decentralized nuclear powerstations)...

If it meant, that we would strive to be completely independent from the price of middle easts favorite products....

If it meant, that we had more high-tech products to sell and not to send caterpillars in rural areas....

If it meant we could have cheap ethanol...

... then GW would be quite a nice thing - as a bonus it's getting more comfortable and cosy, too - although we elimited fossile resources from beeing used as an energy source.

(That's if these measures would not reduce the warming because it's really cosmic rays casusing the heat to rise. -otherwise they might lead us to the next ice age ;-)


15 posted on 03/20/2007 3:26:19 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: yoe

Yes, I watched the whole 75 minutes two days ago. It was excellent, and will convince any who don't have a GW ax to grind already.


16 posted on 03/20/2007 3:27:44 AM PDT by jim35 ("...when the lion and the lamb lie down together, ...we'd better damn sure be the lion")
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To: ricks_place

'Treat it as human". ( Screw em, they're only sheep.)


17 posted on 03/20/2007 3:28:36 AM PDT by Waco
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To: ricks_place

The scam laid bare...

All in a Good Cause (Global Warming)
Rhinoceros Times of Greensboro ^ | March 2007 | By Orson Scott Card

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1800226/posts


18 posted on 03/20/2007 3:30:26 AM PDT by listenhillary (You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think)
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To: listenhillary

If someone from University of Chicago made this statement, I would be more likley to believe it.

But notice that these people are from places like "Joe's University."


19 posted on 03/20/2007 3:34:15 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: ricks_place

Given that interglacial periods are both rare and short, and that more warmth has always beget more prosperity, we should hope that we can effect the planet and do all we can to keep it warm, not cool it off.


20 posted on 03/20/2007 3:43:34 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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