Posted on 01/18/2007 7:50:55 AM PST by jveritas
The most lasting tragedy of the Vietnam War is that it has legitimized giving aid and comfort to the enemy. We are seeing the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy running wild in this war on terror and sadly not only among liberals and their media but also among some conservatives who some of them are right here on this great Free Republic.
When Al Qaeda terrorists, or the terrorist regimes in Iran and Syria, or the Iraqi insurgent terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia hear the speeches of defeatism coming from liberals and their media, or unfortunately coming from some conservatives who some of them are right here on Free Republic, will they feel comforted and aided by these speeches? Of course they will be comforted, and they will be embolden to fight more and more, kill more and more, destroy more and more, because they realize that many Americans do not have the will to fight a long and hard war.
Defeatism and providing aid and comfort to the enemy was something that we expected from liberals and their media because their hate to President Bush and the Republican Party is hundred of times more than their hate to the terrorists. However it is really sad that some conservatives and some members on this great forum are doing their share in providing aid and comfort to the enemy through their defeatist attitude.
Do the defeatists want to amend the Constitution so we will have the following? Stop the war and leave if we lose more than one thousand troops, or stop the war and leave if it lasts more than one year, or stop the war and leave if it costs more than 50 billions dollars, whichever comes first. Do they want to do this?
The defeatists who argue that Iraq is not part of the war on terror but rather it is just a civil war between Sunnis and Shia are wrong and naive beyond belief. Iraq is most definitely the central and most important front in the war on terror. It is in Iraq where Al Qaeda and their local Iraqi allies decided to fight the US. It is in Iraq where the islamic terrorists from all over the world are pouring in to fight the Americans. It is in Iraq where the terrorist regimes of Iran and Syria and their local Iraqi allies want to defeat the US so they can have total control of the Middle East. Since the terrorists are all over the world, then the best way to fight them is to attract them to one place to kill them. Whether it was planned or not, Iraq turned out to be the magnet that has been attracting the terrorists from all over the world, and that is the ultimate way to fight the war on terror and to kill as many terrorists as we can.
Every defeatist who is giving aid and comfort to the enemy should ask himself or herself this question: What will happen if we leave Iraq before we achieve complete victory? The First thing that will happen is that the enemy will be embolden beyond belief and the terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia, whether they are Al Qaeda, or Iran or Syria, will be given the ultimate victory that will embolden them thousands more time then when they were emboldened when the US left Beirut after the Marines barracks terrorist attack in 1983, or when the US left Somalia in 1993 after the terrorist killed 19 troops, or when no reprisal happened against the terrorists when they attacked many American targets through out the Clinton years. If our passiveness to the past terrorist attacks emboldened them in such a way to attack us on 9/11, think about what they can do to us if we give and leave Iraq and thus handle them the ultimate victory that they have been dreaming about for decades.
The defeatists must understand that if few terrorists sitting in a cave in Afghanistan with a small budget and few volunteers were able to do the 9/11 terrorist attacks, killed 3000 Americans, and caused over one trillion dollars in economic damages, then the terrorists control of Iraq and of the whole Middle East, and its vast oil resources will allow them to conduct terrorist attacks against us that we cannot imagine even in our worst nightmares. By controlling Iraq and the Middle East the terrorists will have hundreds of billions of dollars under their control that they will use it to attack us everywhere in the world and the US and cause unimaginable death, destruction and economic losses that will make 9/11 terrorist attacks look like a picnic in comparison. They will also use the oil weapon to bring the world economy to a disaster that will be many folds worse than that of the 1929 Depression.
Fellow Free Republic members, we are fighting the most important war since WW II. We are not fighting for the Iraqis in Iraq but we are fighting for ourselves, for our freedom and for our way of life. Let us all support our President and our brave troops because they need our support now more than ever.
Speaking of lively weekends, any Freepers who haven't given up yet are welcome to join us at our Winter Patriots gathering in D.C. the weekend after this on January 27. There'll be a tens of thousands of moonbats and and a few dozen of us patriots.
Of course not MO1, why bother with the bitter reality.
Some might say you're kicking a stump! LOL ;-)
You've certainly caught a few interesting ones.
No doubt about it.
Kurdistan is also providing refuge for the PKK.
1) They do. 2) And they might not "care what the pontificating idiots say," but they know that it is making their job harder (and more dangerous) to do. And I'll bet they wish the "pontificating idiots" would shut the hell up and get behind them and their mission.
Complete victory is the destruction of AL Qaeda in Iraq and hence its destruction around the world. It is the destruction of Iran and Syria terrorists in Iraq and hence a huge fatal blow for both the Iranian and Syrian terrorist regime. When terrorism is defeatist in Iraq it will be defeated everywhere else. That is the complete victory.
Marvelous. You can be proud.
Now remember one of the things you were fighting for -- our First Amendment right to freely speak and petition the government.
I, too, heartily supported the war. But I got off the bus when I realized that (a) the Iraqis haven't demonstrated the commitment to control their own country, (b) the Iraqis (Kurds excepted) generally hate our guts and will despise us after we're gone, (c) the Iraqi army units are rife with corruption from top to bottom and therefore lack the basic integrity to establish a just and secure society, and (d) when our troops are being made to take off their boots before entering mosques to find snipers within -- instead of blowing the freakin' place sky high --we lack the ruthlessness to win this war.
If we are going to fight the war, then let's fight it to win for heaven's sake. If that means leveling entire blocks of Baghdad and raining holy hell on the insurgents, then so be it. If it means destroying the Iranian Navy in a single day as a warning against misbehavior in Iraq and elsewhere, then so be it. But please count me out of this hearts-and-minds BS that worked so "wonderfully" in 'Nam.
I sure wish I could come...I hate that I miss so much stuff going on in the DC area.
You guys do such a GREAT job of representing a lot of us on FR...and I know I don't thank you all often enough...but I always appreciate it.
True, but I need to point out that this is exactly what the libs say.
I'm sure you'd acknowledge that loud cries against the war make the terrorists feel that they just have to hold out a little longer and we'll turn tail and run. If that isn't giving aid and comfort to the enemy, I don't know what is.
If the American people allow the libs to pull us out of Iraq before we are through, then the American people deserve the onslaught of terrorist attacks that will likely come. They deserve to lose any hope of stopping Iran and every other radical Islamic state from developing WMD.
Sad part is, it won't just be the ones who wanted to pull out that will suffer for it.
LOL.... the day is still young :)
>> When Al Qaeda terrorists, or the terrorist regimes in Iran and Syria, or the Iraqi insurgent terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia hear the speeches of defeatism coming from liberals and their media, or unfortunately coming from some conservatives who some of them are right here on Free Republic, will they feel comforted and aided by these speeches? Of course they will be comforted, and they will be embolden to fight more and more, kill more and more, destroy more and more, because they realize that many Americans do not have the will to fight a long and hard war. <<
You think AQ or the Muslim Brotherhood is monitoring Free Republic?
LOL...sometimes kicking a stump feels like just the right thing to do!!
You miss my point.
From Reuters today:
Turkey on Thursday welcomed a raid by U.S. and Iraqi forces on a refugee camp of Turkish Kurds in northern Iraq as a first step towards combating Kurdish rebels, but insisted the camp must be shut down.
Iraqi and U.S. troops conducted a search operation on Wednesday at the Makhmur refugee camp in northern Iraq, which Ankara has long argued provides a safe haven for militants from the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).
Looks like the situation is being addressed.
HOOAH
100% true.
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