[vimto]

Thanks for the ping.... a very interesting thread with some excellent responses.

MTPW: I have never been in the forces (too much of a liberal when young)but I read a lot about wars these days. They always go weird and take odd turns and the fog of war screws things up.....but those who believe and are committed endure. And strategically endurance is vital. It's that perseverance the (ill)liberal-left seeks to sap. That way defeat comes. You can be sure the enemey is fully committed. 'nuff said.

[george76]

Thanks.

It is amazing to me that so many westerners only see the Iraq War alone and miss the bigger picture...that Islam has been trying to take over the world since the 600's .

They view us as either muslim, slave, or dead.

Ben Franklin and many of American founding fathers in the 1700's knew this then, too.