Skip to comments.Grumbling in the Ranks [PELOSI AT WORK ALERT --- MAJOR UCMJ VIOLATIONS]
Posted on 01/15/2007 7:57:55 PM PST by Alter Kaker
Vocal opposition to Presidents Bushs strategy of sending more than 20,000 additional troops to help secure Iraq has grown to include some of the troops themselves.
A group of more than 50 active-duty military officers will deliver a petition to Congress on Tuesday signed by about 1,000 troops calling for an end to the U.S. occupation of Iraq. Any troop increase over here will just produce more sitting ducks, more targets, said Sergeant Ronn Cantu, who is serving in Iraq.
Under the 1988 Military Whistleblower Protection Act, active duty military, National Guard, and Reservists may communicate with any member of Congress without fear of reprisal, even if copies of the communication are sent to others.
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The concept is citizen soldiers. Insubordination would be if he refused to go, not if he redressed his Congressman and said going wasn't a good policy move.
Boy, I wish I knew.
This Leads on the the Today Show in the AM...
Insubordination is the act of a subordinate deliberately disobeying a lawful order. Insubordination is typically a punishable offense in hierarchical organizations which depend on people lower in the chain of command to do as they are told. The term does not cover behaviours like bad work ethics, voicing complaints, or refusing to perform an action that is not safe, ethical, or legal. However, the person may well get accused of insubordination in such a case.
The concept of insubordination is most often associated with military organizations, as military organizations have a chain of command and lawful orders given by a superior officer, whose orders are expected to be carried out by the person to whom the order is given. Refusal of a military officer to obey his (civilian) superiors would also count, though in some nations the head of the government is (at least technically) also the most superior officer of the military (see for example Commander in Chief in the US).
The weasels come out of the wordwork. Of course, no democrat has culled these traitors.
I call B.S. on their "petition". Fake signatures, most of them.
Sounds like a coup attempt.
Career killer. Let these guys do that, but they might as well not re-up, because they will never go anywhere in the military.
Oh..for sure it will.
It will be on Imus and Sissy Chrissy Matthews.
Someone in the House and the Senate will get up on the floor and wave this around...PROOF that Pres. Bush is WRONG.
Every war has it's share of COWARDS.
They show us 1/2 a sentence from some petition. We don't even know the overall point of the actual petition. Besides, 50 people doesn't make a consensus, not that the military operates on consensus.
BS here too. I'll believe it, when I see it.
To report fraud and abuse, not encourage insubordination.
But they have little to fear in terms of reprisals from the current CIC and they know it.
They wouldn't have dared try this with Reagan.
1000 enlisted is one thing, but what were those 50 officers thinking? Anyway, this will be all over the news tomorrow.
That's what I'm wondering. I don't think it's legal for active duty military to protest in such a way. Legal or not, it's certainly not the right thing to do. The enemy couldn't possibly buy propaganda this good....
Gee. 1000 whole signatures. There are 1.4 million people on active duty. The Army has 130,000 in Iraq, alone. That means that if the signatures were exclusively from soldiers serving in Iraq about 7/10th of 1% of the troops there signed the petition. If it is from all of the armed forces then it is one out of every 1400 people signed.
It is a rare organization in which less than 1% of its membership are kooks and flakes, but it looks like the armed forces is one of them.
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