The concept is citizen soldiers. Insubordination would be if he refused to go, not if he redressed his Congressman and said going wasn't a good policy move.
Boy, I wish I knew.
The weasels come out of the wordwork. Of course, no democrat has culled these traitors.
I call B.S. on their "petition". Fake signatures, most of them.
Sounds like a coup attempt.
Career killer. Let these guys do that, but they might as well not re-up, because they will never go anywhere in the military.
Every war has it's share of COWARDS.
They show us 1/2 a sentence from some petition. We don't even know the overall point of the actual petition. Besides, 50 people doesn't make a consensus, not that the military operates on consensus.
To report fraud and abuse, not encourage insubordination.
But they have little to fear in terms of reprisals from the current CIC and they know it.
They wouldn't have dared try this with Reagan.
That's what I'm wondering. I don't think it's legal for active duty military to protest in such a way. Legal or not, it's certainly not the right thing to do. The enemy couldn't possibly buy propaganda this good....
Gee. 1000 whole signatures. There are 1.4 million people on active duty. The Army has 130,000 in Iraq, alone. That means that if the signatures were exclusively from soldiers serving in Iraq about 7/10th of 1% of the troops there signed the petition. If it is from all of the armed forces then it is one out of every 1400 people signed.
It is a rare organization in which less than 1% of its membership are kooks and flakes, but it looks like the armed forces is one of them.
I wonder how many of these "vets" and "troops" are really troops. Almost every anti=war "vet" turns out to be a phony: Micah Wright, Jesse Macbeth, and on and on and on. Indeed, I'm not aware of any of the publically celebrated members of "Iraq Veterans Against the War" who is actually, you know, an "Iraq Veteran."
This is the same thing that happened with the VVAW, of which the IVAW is a spinoff. Look at an IVAW protest and you see all the paunchy sixty-year olds in grey ponytails and BDUs (a uniform from the 1980s) with a dog's breakfast of mismatched pins and patches.
Sure, there are some traitors who piss on the blood of their former mates (Stan Goff, who is active in IVAW despite not being an IV, comes to mind), but most of them are just unemployed, welfare-leech mama's boys pretending to be traitors.
As strange as it sounds, in DU/Kos social circles, traitor is something to aspire to. Extra points if you can blame all your troubles on "New York money people" or some other synonym for Joooooz.
You'd have to have lived a sheltered childhood and never known a soul who was actually in the military to take these clowns seriously -- which is why MSM reporters take them seriously.
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Criminal Number 18F
If that's true and that's a big if, these 50 officers must not like their commissions.
This Cantu is the one who has the Iraq Veterans Against the War website. Evidently, sponsored by moveon.org, they are marching on Washington on January 27.
per unitedforpeace.org website
Any troop increase over here will just produce more sitting ducks, more targets,
This is the lefty meme of the moment, intended apparently for the hinterland masses and not for the self-designated elite. It is so widespread in fact that it has made its way onto a promo for one of the gibbering baboons who hosts a morning talk-show in Lubbock. Do these people really suppose that terror attacks are currently limited by the terrorists' inability to find more targets?
If legit, it's probably because we're fighting a PC war instead of killing people and breaking things.
When I was in the Navy, you could perhaps ask to discuss a piece of strategy. You could recommend a change to strategy. But to tell your superior that his/her strategy was wrong was to ask to get real familiar with the inside of the brig.