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CBS's Lara Logan Declares US Defeated In Iraq; General Abizaid Disputes Claim
http://newsbusters.org/ ^ | November 27, 2006 | Michael Rule

Posted on 11/27/2006 3:46:38 PM PST by lowbridge

CBS's Lara Logan Declares US Defeated In Iraq; General Abizaid Disputes Claim

Posted by Michael Rule on November 27, 2006 - 16:09.

On Sunday’s "60 Minutes," CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent Lara Logan insisted the US had been defeated in Iraq. During an interview with General John Abizaid, the top US Commander in Iraq, Logan asserted, "We hear very little about victory in Iraq these days. We hear a lot about how to manage the defeat." It appears Ms. Logan suffers from selective hearing. While many Democrats and some Republicans talk about Iraq as a lost cause, sources such as Senator John McCain and White House officials still insist victory is not only possible, it is imperative.

General Abizaid dismissed Logan’s claims, and maintained that "defeat" was her word not his. However, Logan persisted in proclaiming that the United States had been beaten.

The transcript of Logan’s exchange with General Abizaid follows:

Lara Logan: We hear very little about victory in Iraq these days. We hear a lot about how to manage the defeat. And a lot of Americans...

John Abizaid: What defeat?

Lara Logan: How we minimize the defeat.

John Abizaid: That's your word. Defeat is your word, not my word. Can Iraq stabilize? Yes, Iraq could stabilize.

Lara Logan: Is that what we--is that victory now? Is that what victory will look like in Iraq, just stability? That's what we're aiming for?

John Abizaid: Victory in Iraq is a nation at peace with its neighbors, and Iraq hasn't been at peace with its neighbors in a long time. It is a country that respects the rights of its citizens. It's a country that can defend itself. It's a country that's not a safe haven for terrorists.

Lara Logan: Increasingly in this country, people are talking about how to manage defeat in Iraq. There's a loss of support for the war, very clearly showing in the present. Not a loss of support for the military...

John Abizaid: Yeah.

Lara Logan: ...or for the soldiers which still remains strong.

John Abizaid: Well, Lara, again, let me say I don't think people in the country are trying to figure out how to manage defeat in Iraq. I think people in the country are trying to figure out how to manage our involvement in Iraq so that Iraq can stabilize. You just can't walk away from these problems of the Middle East and hope that things are going to get better. Look, many people have said we're already at the beginning of World War III.

Lara Logan: Are we?

John Abizaid: No. We're not, and our involvement in the region will prevent it.



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1 posted on 11/27/2006 3:46:40 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge
CBS's Lara Logan Declares US Defeated In Iraq

Like that even means anything.

2 posted on 11/27/2006 3:47:43 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: lowbridge
Lara Logan: We hear very little about victory in Iraq these days.

Thanks to people like Ms. Logan and her colleagues in the media.

3 posted on 11/27/2006 3:49:01 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: lowbridge

I saw that interview last night....through most of it...Abizaid looked at her like he was humoring her..

But, when she pronounced that we would lose the war...he was not so happy...he was really good through the whole thing, and she sounded like an airhead.


4 posted on 11/27/2006 3:49:08 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: lowbridge

They think if they shout Defeat through their megaphone often and long enough, it will come true. The way things are going they might even be right.


5 posted on 11/27/2006 3:50:03 PM PST by Argus
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To: lowbridge
Increasingly in this country, news people and Democrats are talking about how to manage defeat in Iraq.

There that's better.

6 posted on 11/27/2006 3:50:31 PM PST by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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To: lowbridge
CBS's Lara Logan's father Declares US Defeated In Iraq

7 posted on 11/27/2006 3:50:33 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: lowbridge

Our recent election has made the Moon Bat Mediots bolder and ever crazier.

They are stabbing every warrior in Iraq in the back, and they know that.


8 posted on 11/27/2006 3:51:00 PM PST by Grampa Dave (The Bush haters on both sides have elected the government they have dreamed of!)
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To: lowbridge
I heard her shoot this question out last night as I was trying to find the football game. I was stunned by her questioning. She didn't just slip it in once she tried a few times by saying "everyone agrees that we have lost the war".

The general was having none of it.
9 posted on 11/27/2006 3:53:17 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: lowbridge

Once the Democrats came back into power in both houses, we were defeated. We lost the war here, not there. What should we have expected from a MSM that reported almost all the bad news from Iraq and almost none of the good and worked to beat their anti-war and anti-Bush drums until their crescendo on election day? Now, they say we should surrender, and surrender the American people will. They are right, we lost. Our soldiers didn't lose, WE DID.


10 posted on 11/27/2006 3:53:47 PM PST by lmr (The answers to life don't involve complex solutions.)
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To: lowbridge
"People are talking about how to manage defeat in Iraq."

I wish Abizaid have replied, "Aside from the people in your newsroom, tell me the names of other prople who make the claim that we are defeated."

11 posted on 11/27/2006 3:54:12 PM PST by Nomorjer Kinov (If the opposite of "pro" is "con" , what is the opposite of progress?)
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OK whose opinion about war am I going to believe? Abizaid or some news person named Lara Logan? Be serious. I'll stick with the General and pass on the Lois Lane wannabe.
12 posted on 11/27/2006 3:55:34 PM PST by rhombus
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To: lowbridge
   CBS USEFUL IDIOT

13 posted on 11/27/2006 3:57:58 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: lowbridge

The liberal media said the same thing about VietNam. They were lying then, and they're lying now. It worked then. We can't let it work now.


14 posted on 11/27/2006 3:58:07 PM PST by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: rhombus

Yeah, just what other geostrategic advice did "General Logan" have to offer?

Insufferable reporterette infobabe airhead!


15 posted on 11/27/2006 3:59:03 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: lowbridge
From Wikepedia:

William Joyce (April 24, 1906 – January 3, 1946), known as Lord Haw-Haw, was a fascist politician and Nazi propaganda broadcaster to the United Kingdom during World War II. Controversially, he was executed for treason by the British as a result of his wartime activities.
16 posted on 11/27/2006 4:01:14 PM PST by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: Nomorjer Kinov

"I wish Abizaid have replied, "Aside from the people in your newsroom, tell me the names of other prople who make the claim that we are defeated.""

Cindy Sheehan, Jack Murtha, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Hollywood, the Upper West Side of Manhattan, NBC, ABC, CNN, PMSNBC, The NYT, The LAT, WaPo, Time, Newsweek, PBS, NPR. Should I continue?


17 posted on 11/27/2006 4:01:30 PM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Recon Dad

It's got to be one of the harder parts of Abizaid's job to have to talk to idiots like Lara Logan with a straight face.


18 posted on 11/27/2006 4:09:55 PM PST by fishergirl (Proud mom of an Iraq war veteran - to all our veterans Thank You and God Bless)
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To: lowbridge

She's not worth the powder to.......

If you havn't been here, it's time you did.

http://www.defenselink.mil/home/dodupdate/index-b.html


19 posted on 11/27/2006 4:17:33 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: lmr

Just Remember Chris Matthews said months ago that if President Bush wins victory in Iraq, that he deserves to be memorialized on Mt. Rushmore. Lets work even harder for that to happen and General Abizaid and all of Our Brave Troops and Citizens are accomplishing truly remarkable and Great results.The Democrats are desperate now for defeat andd they are loosing. Go back to Our Freep poll today. 80% want to do whatever it takes to Win in Iraq. The Dims won their few seat of majority by running fake horses and the trash of the DBM!


20 posted on 11/27/2006 4:19:07 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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