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Mason Dixon's numbers are telling us something
TKS at National Review ^ | November 5, 2006 | Jim Gerhaghty

Posted on 11/05/2006 3:16:09 PM PST by Oakleaf

Boy, today's Mason Dixon polls do nothing to dissuade the notion of a late-breaking shift back to the Republicans.

As you know, I like to whack around pollsters like a pinata, but Mason-Dixon has a good reputation among political professionals - if they're not always right, they almost never give you a really wacky result. In 2004, they got 13 out of 14 swing states right at the presidential level (they put Bush up in Minnesota) and were pretty spot-on in their margin of victory.

Today, M-D puts Brown beating DeWine by 6 in Ohio. (Who was writing last night Ohio had turned into a single-digit race?) (Interestingly, they saw no tightening in Pennsylvania; Santorum went from -12 to -13.) Brown is still the favorite, but DeWine can take some solace in the fact that the numbers are turning his direction in these final days.

The real shocker is M-D has Chafee ahead by one point. I heard a Globe reporter saying the Democrats were worried about Rhode Island, and thought it was interesting but didn't quite buy it. Chafee had been down pretty big for a while. But as a buddy of mine noted, Chafee's a well-established, well-respected family name; those names don't often get blown out by 10 to 14 points. (I could see the argument that between a liberal Republican and a liberal Democrat, voters will pick the Democrat, but as we saw in the primary, Chafee's got a better connection to this community than we expected.) Everybody's had this one as an automatic Democratic pickup; if this seat slips through their fingers, it's like the number 15 team beating the number 2 team in the NCAA basketball tournament; it wrecks a lot of office pools.

M-D has Missouri close (surprise) but the trend is interesting, from McCaskill up 3 late last month to up 1. I'm hearing that Talent's internal numbers are fantastic - for whatever that's worth - and that the cloning referendum has the GOP base revved.

In Arizona, M-D has Jon Kyl up 8, suggesting that spending $1 million at the last minute may be a decision that Chuck Schumer comes to regret, particularly if a race like Rhode Island gets fumbled.

M-D concurs with the emerging consensus in Maryland, virtual tie; they have Cardin up 3 after having Cardin up 6 two weeks ago.

Montana's tied. Guess we know what had the Montana Democrats sweating earlier this week.

In Tennessee, M-D has Corker up 12, 50 percent to 38 percent. If Corker wins big, I'm going to want to rub Newsweek's noses in it for that glowing, heroic cover piece they ran on Harold Ford Jr. Anoint him the Golden Child after he's won, not before.

Worst sign for Republicans? Another poll showing Virginia nearly tied, M-D showing Webb by 1. It's gonna be a close race, and from my mailbag, the NoVa Democrats are fired up. Allen had better hope his get-out-the-vote effort works a heck of a lot better than the rest of his campaign has worked so far.


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To: beans36
And not surprising, Arlen Specter has been the invisible man in this campaign. For some reason, Santorum campaigned his ass off for Specter last time, but Specter is nowhere to be found now. ...
NOT TRUE!

Toomey has done a radio commercial and probably more that I don't know.

Specter has done everything he could to help Rick. He has made calls, written opeds, raised money, held fundraisers, spoken to group after group, taped ads, gone on talk radio, on tv and everyplace else he could go to make sure Santorum is reelected.

81 posted on 11/05/2006 4:37:11 PM PST by Ooh-Ah
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To: WalterSkinner

I don't know, the democrats and the Washington Post put an all-out blitz on the guy, and he didn't help himself with his campaign.


82 posted on 11/05/2006 4:38:15 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Oakleaf

In VA we have been treated to a ton of cheap political ads that have turned people off. Allen has done a pretty poor job of convincing people he's their man even after the success he had as governor. That the media has teamed up with Webb to take Allen out of office has hurt Allen tremendously. This state has gone democrat for the State House for the past few elections and NOVA is overrun with demorats. I think Webb takes it by a nose unfortunately.


83 posted on 11/05/2006 4:43:08 PM PST by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: CharlesWayneCT
..but out in the real world (outside the Beltway), I am sure that the Dems will come up short.

Hey, I even think Chris Shays is going to make it.

84 posted on 11/05/2006 4:44:34 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: youthgonewild
Chafee should lose, he will defect to the Democrats so fast that Mitch McConnell's head will spin if it comes down to it.

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Only if it makes a difference. If we keep a strong majority he can't do anything but stay where he is, Rino hell.
85 posted on 11/05/2006 4:44:41 PM PST by photodawg
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To: Paige

Old George has not run a good campaign in a state that has been trending Blue. If he wins (which I am inclined to think not at this point) then he does it by a hair.


86 posted on 11/05/2006 4:45:15 PM PST by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: Paige
The Marriage referendum in Virginia will put Allen over the top. The Christians will be out to vote for the amendment in Virginia banning gay marriages. This is what will save Allen.

I have thought this all along, yet there has been very little mention of it. Evangelicals will be voting in force with this amendment on the ballot.

87 posted on 11/05/2006 4:46:15 PM PST by irishlass
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To: Popman
Can someone explain to me why Santorum is so far behind?

Two words: Pat Toomey

Rick's support base collapsed after that fiasco and has never fully recovered.

88 posted on 11/05/2006 4:46:23 PM PST by rhinohunter
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To: NittanyLion
Prop 2 - yes

Prop 5 - no ??

89 posted on 11/05/2006 4:46:44 PM PST by sit-rep ( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
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To: photodawg

Lincoln Chafee has pulled even in the polls. It puts RI conservatives in the ironic position of helping reelect someone they're reluctant to have supported in the first place.


90 posted on 11/05/2006 4:47:09 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: Oakleaf
Worst sign for Republicans? Another poll showing Virginia nearly tied, M-D showing Webb by 1. It's gonna be a close race, and from my mailbag, the NoVa Democrats are fired up. Allen had better hope his get-out-the-vote effort works a heck of a lot better than the rest of his campaign has worked so far.

If the Pubbies across the river are doing what we are doing here in Maryland Allen will prevail handily. I was so impressed today by the folks around me and those managing GOTV effort for Erlich and Steele. It's an honor and a joy to be part of it.

91 posted on 11/05/2006 4:48:14 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: Oakleaf
M-D has Missouri close (surprise) but the trend is interesting, from McCaskill up 3 late last month to up 1. I'm hearing that Talent's internal numbers are fantastic - for whatever that's worth - and that the cloning referendum has the GOP base revved.

That may be the only good thing about the cloning ref, but we are optomistic.

92 posted on 11/05/2006 4:49:26 PM PST by ShowMeMom (America: The home of the FREE because of the BRAVE.)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Let's not forget that we can thank the MSM for much of this, since it's them that's being feeding Harold's ego by treating him as if he's already won the 2012 presidential election.

That was before they discovered Obama. "The MSM giveth and the MSM taketh away."

93 posted on 11/05/2006 4:51:29 PM PST by ShowMeMom (America: The home of the FREE because of the BRAVE.)
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To: misterrob

I think Allen holds on; with the WAPO ombudsperson today stating that they now admit they have been unfair to Allen, that may (or may not) have an impact. I'm sticking with my original, no change in numbers in the seante...a few face changes, but we will still have a 55-45 majority. I think we keep the house as well, but the margin is only 2 or 3 seats. Punch Foley for Joe is really working in that district and I think pubbies hold there, despite the dem/press attempts to steal it away.


94 posted on 11/05/2006 4:52:50 PM PST by Laverne
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To: All
This and the ABC poll actually have me slightly concerned. Yes, there is some good news for the GOP in both, however by reporting it accurately this could stimulate the otherwise apathetic democrat base (at least I've read a few places that the democrat base isn't anywhere near as fired up as the MSM would lead us to believe). I'd rather have the dismal outlook reported straight through Tuesday just to help keep the dems at home.
95 posted on 11/05/2006 4:53:08 PM PST by sizzlemeister
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To: Oakleaf
Actually, these have always been the numbers...we've or they have been looking at nothing but SKEWED NUMBERS BY THE RAT CROWD. They've been trying to convince Republicans they can't win so why vote. This tactic is actually done more good for the Republicans...with those lies being put out there by the rats...early voting has brought out HERDS OF REPUBLICANS to VOTE. On Nov. 7th...there'll again be HERDS OF REPUBLICANS voting.

WE, REBPUBLICANS WIN, the dems lose again.

96 posted on 11/05/2006 4:54:28 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: concerned about politics
Wall Street (Barron's) predicts holding the house by 1 and losing 2 in the Senate.

I trust Barron more than anyone else on the planet. Do you have a link or something where I can see his predictions?

97 posted on 11/05/2006 4:55:22 PM PST by ShowMeMom (America: The home of the FREE because of the BRAVE.)
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To: concerned about politics

I may be in incorrect on this one, but I seem to remember in previous elections when Rep. are down about 2 to 3 pts in congressional pref. polls we actually pick up seats. Pollsters can be wrong for 6 months but when they publish their accuracy of results it's only the final polls that matter.


98 posted on 11/05/2006 4:58:27 PM PST by SuperGater
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To: Laverne

We hold the Senate by 52-48 but lose the House. Given my druthers I would rather hold the Senate simply due to judicial nominations.


99 posted on 11/05/2006 5:00:32 PM PST by misterrob (Bill Clinton, The Wizard of "Is")
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To: concerned about politics

The reason the polls dont make any sense is because they are BULLSCAT!Republicans polled say demorats are better on taxes? Not on this planet.Nice try rats but we aint buying.


100 posted on 11/05/2006 5:01:04 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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