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French philosphy teacher in hiding after criticizing Islam
New York Times ^ | September 30, 2006 | ELAINE SCIOLINO

Posted on 09/30/2006 1:26:01 PM PDT by saberman

Teacher in Hiding After Attack on Islam Stirs Threats— A French high school philosophy teacher and author who carried out a scathing attack against the Prophet Muhammad and Islam in a newspaper commentary says he has gone into hiding under police protection after receiving a series of death threats, including one disseminated on an online radical Islamist forum. The teacher, Robert Redeker, 52, wrote in the center-right daily Le Figaro 10 days ago that Muhammad was “a merciless warlord, a looter, a mass-murderer of Jews and a polygamist,” and called the Koran “a book of incredible violence.” The Redeker case is the latest manifestation in Europe of a mounting ideological battle that pits those who believe Islam and the Prophet Muhammad can be criticized in the name of free speech against those in the Muslim community who believe no criticism can be tolerated...In his commentary, Mr. Redeker compared Islam unfavorably to Christianity and Judaism, although he admitted that the history of the Catholic Church was “full of dark pages,” and he criticized the hostile reaction to the pope’s remarks. “Jesus is a master of love; Muhammad is a master of hatred,” Mr. Redeker wrote, adding, “Whereas Judaism and Christianity are religions whose rites forsake violence and remove its legitimacy, Islam is a religion that, in its very sacred text, as much as in some of its everyday rites, exalts violence and hatred...” Immediately afterward, Mr. Redeker,the author of several books on philosophy, began to receive death threats by telephone, e-mail and through the online Islamist Web site known as Al Hesbah, a password-protected forum with ties to Al Qaeda. The forum published photos of him and what it said was his home address, directions to his home and his cellphone number...”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dhimmis; dhimmitude; enemywithin; france; freespeech; infiltration; islam; sarkozy
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To: saberman

I'd suggest Mr. Redeker not seek asylum in the USA.
As our guvmint is busy importing people that would like to kill him.
Or would just stand aside as he got "van Goghed".

(list from a preivous thread):

More Muslims moving to U.S.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1699992/posts

US schools compete for Saudi students -not yet able do effective
background checks on applicants
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1699252/posts

Victor Davis Hanson: Those Saudi Students. It’s not irrational to
be wary of this deal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701943/posts


21 posted on 09/30/2006 2:58:34 PM PDT by VOA
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To: saberman
He should have added Mohammed was a pedophile who pimped little girls. Needless to say, for telling the truth, his life is in danger.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

22 posted on 09/30/2006 3:00:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: backtothestreets
If I'm thinking like you, I believe that "worst one" is exactly what I'm entertaining. I see no other way. I may mark myself as uncivilized for what I envision, but I can burden that if civilization is protect

. . .well, I could entertain it as well; and have at times. It is kind of a 'cooked frog' dilemma; inasmuch as by the time we are desperate enough; we may no longer have the 'force of will'; or the opportunity. . .

OTOH. . .

23 posted on 09/30/2006 3:01:19 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)
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To: kinoxi
No. But they can kill him for insulting Islam.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

24 posted on 09/30/2006 3:01:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: backtothestreets
Islam is a lie fearful of being held up to the truth.

Islam cannot survive the truth. That is what this is all about. Think of all of the Imam's oxen that would be gored.

25 posted on 09/30/2006 3:02:53 PM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: Republicain
I have a feeling (hopefully) that its going to the people that rise up against islam in the west and bypass the governments entirely
26 posted on 09/30/2006 3:04:43 PM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: saberman

When truth is against you, it is hard to accept it. By pushing Islam into the faces of so many others, muslims have been confronted, in the media and elsewhere, with the contradictions and the illogic of their faith. Anger, rage and denial against the truth are always the first lines of defense. And this is no small matter, for, in the end, that truth threatens the believed structure of the world, itself. How many times, in how many other places, have other faiths fought desperately to preserve the world as they understood it?


27 posted on 09/30/2006 3:05:11 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: cricket

Yeah, let's hope for OTOH as more people seem to be reaching the same conclusion we apparently share.


28 posted on 09/30/2006 3:07:03 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: Charlespg
I have a feeling (hopefully) that its going to the people that rise up against islam in the west and bypass the governments entirely

I think the next french presidential elections (april 2007) will be a good test about french real feelings about immigration, security and islamisation. If traditional candidates (Royal and Sarkozy I presume) are inable to speak honestly and courageously about these issues, and act when elected, then I can't tell you what the future of France (and Europe) will be. But, believe me, the worst can seriously be envisaged...

29 posted on 09/30/2006 3:18:22 PM PDT by Republicain
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To: opinionator
Candidate for Darwin Award.

The Darwin Awards are for people that do things that are stupid. What this man did was dare to speak the truth, not because he was stupid but because he was brave.

30 posted on 09/30/2006 3:28:50 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: ExTexasRedhead

It's beginning to sound like "The New World Order" is Islamic. Like I've been saying, it's either us or them, so we had all better put our political grievences behind us, and unite to fight Terrorism.


31 posted on 09/30/2006 3:35:11 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: backtothestreets
Yeah, let's hope for OTOH as more people seem to be reaching the same conclusion we apparently share.

The conclusion by which 'name' cannot be spoken. . .LOL. . .I wish.

32 posted on 09/30/2006 3:55:51 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)
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To: Republicain
another one : Primo-Europe

Merci ;^) . . .

33 posted on 09/30/2006 4:04:20 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)
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To: saberman

About two years ago a friend of ours who visited Paris told us that the Champs Elysee is filled with burka clad women and Muslim men in the evenings and that the 'old days' of strolling down the Champs on warm summer evenings is a pastime the Parisians have abandoned. This made me sad, because I have fond memories of doing that when I was young and a student in Europe (a long time ago). I also thought about the photos of the Nazis rolling into Paris down the Champs - looks like the Muslims have taken over for sure in view of this teacher's plight. Sad. Once again the French have merely surrendered.


34 posted on 09/30/2006 4:17:39 PM PDT by hardworking (Please read "The Clash of Civilizations" by Samuel Huntington - well worth it.)
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To: pawdoggie
The (non-Muzzie) French must "hold their manhood cheap" that one of their number must go into internal exile in order to avoid the Islamist Headhunters.

Some choice; hide or become a dead froggie.

35 posted on 09/30/2006 4:21:13 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: cricket

we may no longer have the 'force of will'; or the opportunity. . .

You speak the truth wisely. Think of this possibility: Hitlery is elected POTUS. Bubba is Secretary of State. Madwoman Albright is the rep to the U.N. They collectively move us to their revered 'One World Order' a.k.a. the Clinton Global Initiative under which 'world laws' are senior to our U.S. Constitution and three key things become world 'law' under which we fall: 1. Only approved religion may be openly practiced 2. Children must leave their homes beginning at age 2-3 and may not be homeschooled or taught any religious doctrine 3. A quota is placed on how many people can have educations above a certain level, how many can earn what amounts of $$, few if any privately owned companies, other than small family businesses, government takeover of all utilities, etc.


36 posted on 09/30/2006 4:25:34 PM PDT by hardworking (Please read "The Clash of Civilizations" by Samuel Huntington - well worth it.)
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To: cricket
The conclusion by which 'name' cannot be spoken. . .LOL. . .I wish.

Well, I won't post it here, but I did speak it the morning of 9-11 in a conversation with a very dear uncle. He immediately said what I was proposing was genocide. What I was proposing was not new to me. It's the only course I've seen on the horizon for many years before 9-11. The attacks of 9-11 just gave me cause to speak it. Even now, I'll respect FR to the extent I will not write exactly what I proposed, nor acknowledge if it might indeed be considered genocide. Let's just say Islam would cease to exist, and the Koran would meet the same fate as Hitler's book, "Mein Kampf", for the hatred it spawned.

And speaking of Hitler's book, "Mein Kampf", it is being printed in Islamic states, freely distributed, selling well (a best seller within the Arab world), and also doing well in western nations like the UK and the US with large Muslim neighborhoods.
37 posted on 09/30/2006 4:43:52 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: TheCrusader
A German politician also spoke out against islam today

Have a link?

38 posted on 09/30/2006 5:14:20 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: hardworking
"....told us that the Champs Elysee is filled with burka clad women and Muslim men in the evenings..."

I was there in the spring. Muslim women approached me for money at the train station and under the Eiffel tower within the first few minutes.

39 posted on 09/30/2006 6:22:45 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: hardworking
You speak the truth wisely. Think of this possibility: Hitlery is elected POTUS. Bubba is Secretary of State. Madwoman Albright is the rep to the U.N. They collectively move us to their revered 'One World Order' a.k.a. the Clinton Global Initiative under which 'world laws' are senior to our U.S. Constitution and three key things become world 'law' under which we fall: 1. Only approved religion may be openly practiced 2. Children must leave their homes beginning at age 2-3 and may not be homeschooled or taught any religious doctrine 3. A quota is placed on how many people can have educations above a certain level, how many can earn what amounts of $$, few if any privately owned companies, other than small family businesses, government takeover of all utilities, etc.

Worth repeating. . .and of course they are other scenarios out there; but with the possibilities. . . similar unfolding conclusion. . .

40 posted on 09/30/2006 6:27:15 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! VOTE DEMOCRAT. . .)
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