Posted on 09/22/2006 2:15:38 PM PDT by good old days
Indianapolis - Police have arrested a man after finding chemicals and equipment in his apartment that they believe were being used to make dangerous weapons.
Joseph Bagley, 26, was arrested Friday morning at his apartment in Indianapolis. Police say they found chemicals, equipment, gas masks, air purification masks and unlabeled jars of chemicals and powders in Bagley's apartment. Police also saw soldering equipment in plain view, as well as batteries taped together, wires and putty material attached to a metal tube.
Marion County Haz Mat were called to the scene and technicians determined that the chemicals and materials were being used to make a regulated explosive.
Eyewitness News has learned that police have confiscated Bagley's computer.
The apartment complex manager told police that a carpet cleaner contractor had written a note saying that Bagley's apartment looked like a "terrorist cell." Police say they found literature about Al Qaeda in Bagley's apartment, as well as books on Muslim names, understanding United States documents and about Saddam Hussein's bomb maker.
Bagley was arrested on a charge of criminal recklessness. He told police that he had been mixing chemicals. Police also say he was a former electrical engineering student at a local university.
Two things...Whew.
I know, the unlabeled vials are not a good practice.
Actually, it's next to the batteries taped together and the jumbo red LED used to make a stargazing light. They didn't mention the hazmat suit and Tyvek® coveralls that I have (with the masks), so I guess they're legal. :-)
"Soda acid" bombs causing a big scare. I love the comment reader #2 left.
I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!!!
'Nuff said.
NO Cheers, unfortunately.
They will be employed as doctors, lawyers, engineers, businessmen, shop owners... they will be husbands, wives, fathers and mothers, peace loving,easygoing, minding their own business...until they get the "call."
Chilling
I had wondered if there were a connection to that recent threat when I first read this news.
The Sunshine Carpet Cleaners strike again!
Various chemicals have been found in Elsie's house, hidden away out of sight under the kitchen sink. More were found in other locations; such as the bathroom cabinets and secured in lockers in the mudroom and laundry.
Officals theorize that such locations will make it easier to dispose of them rapidly in case the SWAT team arrives unannounced.
Many plastic bottles (various sizes and shapes) were found squirrelled away in a refrigerating chamber.
These are the types of things PROHIBITTED on a plane, so God only KNOWS what defarious uses were planned for them!
Here, too. And they'd find these "bomb-making instructions" by my TV set . . . |
Now the guys that lay carpet finger citizens . . .
Are you insinuating that, because a twit once caused you an inconvenience, someone with a little common sense should ignore a real potential danger?
"Common sense?" What's that?
Do you have a Wiki link?
Seen any lately?
I would say that seeing bomb-making ingredients laying around the place and reporting it is a sign of common sense. Perhaps you might look at your own reasoning and evaluate your own levels of it. Sometimes emotion overrides intellect.
probing and reporting back.
As for the guys worried about having your soldering irons confiscated...
you're right... it is an invasion of privacy. However if we're all on the same page that this is a "war", as has happened in the past, civil rights will be curtailed and the "greater good" will be served.
sounds like the guy was making "something"... HMDT or nitric acid for later use.... I realize that some of you are just being sarcastic, but a lot of folks in the service know that with gasoline, latex, aluminum powder and other stuff like a broken light bulb, pack of matches and fishing line...you could really hurt somebody.
I sure wouldn't want my neighbor to have a "little hobby" that included improvised munitions. Most of us would agree if we saw our neighbor or stranger across the hallway sitting inside of his house with batteries taped together, hooking up cell phone and putting gelatinous or latex filler BACK into a tube or 55 gallon drum that just maybe we'd be a little curious.
Maybe it's just me but I'd rather the cops or FBI come by and say "hello, whatcha doing?" .... and if you're just making a cake or a big life size mask and activating it with a trip wire or delayed initiator.....neat, we're sorry for bothering you, continue with your hobby....
of course that's only my opinion, and I could be wrong.
What it is next to and being in plain sight is not the point. The crappy news article would setup stupid people to report ordinary things because neither they, nor the police, nor reporters can discriminate between harmless and bombmaking stuff. The way it was stated would insinuate that anyone with soldering equipment is a threat to society. Now, if the article published assessments from people who had studied the unlabled chemicals and found them to be explosives, then the public would be served.
My hobbies and work cause me to collect all kinds of stuff that the average dummie might find frightening, chemicals included. Among other things, I occasionally make solid rocket motors from scratch.
It is not wise to condition the public or police to react stupidly and harshly to anything. We must still dwell on the "intent" of the person more so than what he has in his possession.
Joseph Bagley, 26, was arrested Friday morning at his apartment in Indianapolis. Police say they found chemicals, equipment, gas masks, air purification masks and unlabeled jars of chemicals and powders in Bagley's apartment. Police also saw soldering equipment in plain view, as well as batteries taped together, wires and putty material attached to a metal tube.
Marion County Haz Mat were called to the scene and technicians determined that the chemicals and materials were being used to make a regulated explosive.
I once knew a girl
who designed and made jewelry
with materials
like titanium
and other such space age stuff.
Half her apartment
was mad-scientist
lab time. And I have known two
women who airbrushed
images onto
metal that they recovered
from demolotion
sites. Their garages
and homes also looked like labs
for mad scientists.
Guys layings carpets
wouldn't have known what the hell
they were looking at.
People in real life
have hobbies very different
from the kind of crap
you see on TV
and in the movies. Maybe
you would be surprised
at what "carpet guys"
would see (and be afraid of!)
in normal folks's homes.
Exactly. The soldering equipment was inconsequential, wasn't it? This is my point.
If some carpet cleaner ever got into my reloading area he or she would have a heart attack.
L
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