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Indy man arrested after explosives found in home
WTHR 13 ^ | September 22, 2006 | WTHR 13

Posted on 09/22/2006 2:15:38 PM PDT by good old days

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To: eastsider; jan in Colorado
Let's see... because of my work and hobbies and interests... Amazing...only ONE of those things do I NOT have right here (no book on Muslim names). Wait..I have info on Saddam's bomb maker, but not a book.

Two things...Whew.

I know, the unlabeled vials are not a good practice.

21 posted on 09/22/2006 6:37:45 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: dfwddr
Did you leave it lying next to " chemicals, equipment, gas masks, air purification masks and unlabeled jars of chemicals and powders"?

Actually, it's next to the batteries taped together and the jumbo red LED used to make a stargazing light. They didn't mention the hazmat suit and Tyvek® coveralls that I have (with the masks), so I guess they're legal. :-)

22 posted on 09/22/2006 6:43:06 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: GingisK
Check out today's article: Homemade bombs found at Lums Pond State Park (Gannett paper so can't even excerpt here)

"Soda acid" bombs causing a big scare. I love the comment reader #2 left.

23 posted on 09/22/2006 6:50:54 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!!!


24 posted on 09/22/2006 6:52:08 PM PDT by jan in Colorado ("Show me what Mohamed brought that was new & you 'll find only evil and inhuman")
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To: jan in Colorado; All
"We have a different plan for the next attack. You will see. Americans will hardly find out any Muslim names, after the next attack. Most of our brothers are living in Western countries, with Jewish and Christian names, with passports of Western countries. This time, someone with the name of Muhammad Atta will not attack inside America, it would be some David, Richard or Peter."--Abu Dawood

'Nuff said.

NO Cheers, unfortunately.

25 posted on 09/22/2006 9:36:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: grey_whiskers; USF
...with passports of Western countries.

They will be employed as doctors, lawyers, engineers, businessmen, shop owners... they will be husbands, wives, fathers and mothers, peace loving,easygoing, minding their own business...until they get the "call."

Chilling

26 posted on 09/22/2006 9:53:29 PM PDT by jan in Colorado ("Show me what Mohamed brought that was new & you 'll find only evil and inhuman")
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To: grey_whiskers

I had wondered if there were a connection to that recent threat when I first read this news.


27 posted on 09/23/2006 3:40:59 AM PDT by good old days
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To: good old days; Cagey; MotleyGirl70; Mr. Brightside
a carpet cleaner contractor

The Sunshine Carpet Cleaners strike again!

28 posted on 09/23/2006 4:58:28 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: dfwddr

This just in!!

Various chemicals have been found in Elsie's house, hidden away out of sight under the kitchen sink. More were found in other locations; such as the bathroom cabinets and secured in lockers in the mudroom and laundry.

Officals theorize that such locations will make it easier to dispose of them rapidly in case the SWAT team arrives unannounced.

29 posted on 09/23/2006 7:02:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

More evidence found!!

Many plastic bottles (various sizes and shapes) were found squirrelled away in a refrigerating chamber.

These are the types of things PROHIBITTED on a plane, so God only KNOWS what defarious uses were planned for them!

30 posted on 09/23/2006 7:05:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
>Various chemicals have been found in Elsie's house...

Here, too. And they'd find
these "bomb-making instructions"
by my TV set . . .






31 posted on 09/23/2006 7:11:14 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss
A woman once phoned
the police about me because
my telescope looked
to her like a gun . . .

Now the guys that lay carpet finger citizens . . .

Are you insinuating that, because a twit once caused you an inconvenience, someone with a little common sense should ignore a real potential danger?

32 posted on 09/23/2006 7:21:00 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: trebb
>someone with a little common sense . . .

"Common sense?" What's that?
Do you have a Wiki link?
Seen any lately?

33 posted on 09/23/2006 7:24:40 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

I would say that seeing bomb-making ingredients laying around the place and reporting it is a sign of common sense. Perhaps you might look at your own reasoning and evaluate your own levels of it. Sometimes emotion overrides intellect.


34 posted on 09/23/2006 7:43:49 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Elsie
you are right.... the next "wave" will be European Muslims... lots of freaky deaky probing going on..... planes, capitol rail yards...etc... just like scouts ahead of the main body....

probing and reporting back.

As for the guys worried about having your soldering irons confiscated...

you're right... it is an invasion of privacy. However if we're all on the same page that this is a "war", as has happened in the past, civil rights will be curtailed and the "greater good" will be served.

sounds like the guy was making "something"... HMDT or nitric acid for later use.... I realize that some of you are just being sarcastic, but a lot of folks in the service know that with gasoline, latex, aluminum powder and other stuff like a broken light bulb, pack of matches and fishing line...you could really hurt somebody.

I sure wouldn't want my neighbor to have a "little hobby" that included improvised munitions. Most of us would agree if we saw our neighbor or stranger across the hallway sitting inside of his house with batteries taped together, hooking up cell phone and putting gelatinous or latex filler BACK into a tube or 55 gallon drum that just maybe we'd be a little curious.

Maybe it's just me but I'd rather the cops or FBI come by and say "hello, whatcha doing?" .... and if you're just making a cake or a big life size mask and activating it with a trip wire or delayed initiator.....neat, we're sorry for bothering you, continue with your hobby....

of course that's only my opinion, and I could be wrong.

35 posted on 09/23/2006 8:04:49 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: dfwddr
Did you leave it lying next to...

What it is next to and being in plain sight is not the point. The crappy news article would setup stupid people to report ordinary things because neither they, nor the police, nor reporters can discriminate between harmless and bombmaking stuff. The way it was stated would insinuate that anyone with soldering equipment is a threat to society. Now, if the article published assessments from people who had studied the unlabled chemicals and found them to be explosives, then the public would be served.

My hobbies and work cause me to collect all kinds of stuff that the average dummie might find frightening, chemicals included. Among other things, I occasionally make solid rocket motors from scratch.

It is not wise to condition the public or police to react stupidly and harshly to anything. We must still dwell on the "intent" of the person more so than what he has in his possession.

36 posted on 09/23/2006 8:39:31 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
Indianapolis - Police have arrested a man after finding chemicals and equipment in his apartment that they believe were being used to make dangerous weapons.

Joseph Bagley, 26, was arrested Friday morning at his apartment in Indianapolis. Police say they found chemicals, equipment, gas masks, air purification masks and unlabeled jars of chemicals and powders in Bagley's apartment. Police also saw soldering equipment in plain view, as well as batteries taped together, wires and putty material attached to a metal tube.

Marion County Haz Mat were called to the scene and technicians determined that the chemicals and materials were being used to make a regulated explosive.

37 posted on 09/23/2006 9:22:04 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: trebb
>I would say that seeing bomb-making ingredients [?] laying around the place and reporting it is a sign of common sense. Perhaps you might look at your own reasoning and evaluate your own levels of it

I once knew a girl
who designed and made jewelry
with materials

like titanium
and other such space age stuff.
Half her apartment

was mad-scientist
lab time. And I have known two
women who airbrushed

images onto
metal that they recovered
from demolotion

sites. Their garages
and homes also looked like labs
for mad scientists.

Guys layings carpets
wouldn't have known what the hell
they were looking at.

People in real life
have hobbies very different
from the kind of crap

you see on TV
and in the movies. Maybe
you would be surprised

at what "carpet guys"
would see (and be afraid of!)
in normal folks's homes.

38 posted on 09/23/2006 12:50:12 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: jennyjenny

Exactly. The soldering equipment was inconsequential, wasn't it? This is my point.


39 posted on 09/23/2006 7:20:30 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: theFIRMbss
I'm really glad I have that Hoover Steam Vac.

If some carpet cleaner ever got into my reloading area he or she would have a heart attack.

L

40 posted on 09/23/2006 7:31:04 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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