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Webb overtakes Allen in new poll
WAVY TV/Daily Press ^ | 9.28.06 | n/a

Posted on 08/29/2006 9:19:00 AM PDT by meandog

Our partners at the Daily Press are reporting that Democratic Senate candidate Jim Webb, down by more than 10 percentage points in late July, has pulled slightly ahead of Sen. George Allen, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/Zogby Poll.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailypress.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2006; 2006polls; allen; allen2006; biasedpollster; democratichack; discreditedpolls; jameswebb; macaca; onlinepoll; virginia; webb; zogby
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To: areafiftyone

Why? Because some pollsters are telling you so?


21 posted on 08/29/2006 9:32:19 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Darkwolf377
"...McCain and Giuliani are in the lead right now,"

Wow, I missed the Republican primaries.

Why do Freeper of all people fall for this media led polling on who they think the nominees should be?

In actual polling done at state conventions, RINOs like McCain barely show up, but that is not enough for the drive-by-media, all of whom LOVE John McCain (RINO - Drive-By-Media)

22 posted on 08/29/2006 9:32:48 AM PDT by lormand (Nuke the Islamic States, or kiss your @55 goodbye)
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To: meandog

alot of his numbers are very suspect...

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-flash05a.html?project=elections06-ft&h=495&w=778&hasAd=1&mod=blogs


23 posted on 08/29/2006 9:33:42 AM PDT by philsfan24
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To: Coop

I take it you don't believe in polls?


24 posted on 08/29/2006 9:33:58 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: Darkwolf377

I doubt Giuliani will even run, but that may be my own personal wishful thinking.

I don't think either of those clowns could win. They're only leading polls now because of their names, and that will change when the primary draws nearer and the candidates become more known as it always does. Polls now are trash, completly irrelevent in regards to the 2008 presidential election.


25 posted on 08/29/2006 9:34:00 AM PDT by NapkinUser (The biggest victim of the 2006 hurricane season is the national news media.)
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To: areafiftyone

It would be nothing short of disastrous if Allen were to get beaten. Not only does this mean the loss of a Senate seat they cannot afford to lose, but it will further indicate VA is trending Dem, and the GOP candidate for president in '08 can't take it for granted. Not to mention it will probably boost Gov Warner's prospects in '08.


26 posted on 08/29/2006 9:35:08 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: meandog

Zogby polls = caca


27 posted on 08/29/2006 9:36:20 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: TNCMAXQ
It would be nothing short of disastrous if Allen were to get beaten.

I agree, and for the reasons you state.

What is wrong with the party, that we keep throwing away very winnable races?

28 posted on 08/29/2006 9:37:12 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: meandog
from Today's Toons 8/29/06


29 posted on 08/29/2006 9:37:20 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TNCMAXQ
It would be nothing short of disastrous if Allen were to get beaten.

Yes it would. He needs to keep his Senate Seat! If he wants to run for president in 2008 he needs to win his seat back.

30 posted on 08/29/2006 9:37:54 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: Darkwolf377

If Allen wins narrowly, he's still probably finished as Presidential matter.

Back in '96, Congressman Jim Ross Lightfoot challenged Sen Tom Harkin in Iowa's Senate race.

Harkin's name was occasionally bounced around as possible Presidential material.

Harkin won 54-46% - but was perceived afterwards to be damaged goods because he didn't decisively destroy Lightfoot.


31 posted on 08/29/2006 9:38:15 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: lormand

Allen did this to himself with his idiotic apology.


32 posted on 08/29/2006 9:38:31 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: lormand
Wow, I missed the Republican primaries.

Who said anything about the primaries?

Why do Freeper of all people fall for this media led polling on who they think the nominees should be?

Some of us actually know things you don't read about in the paper, about organization, internal polls, etc. I never said a word about who I thought should be in the lead, and I never said these were who I "thought the nominees should be", but you go right ahead making assumptions if it gives you hope that Allen is somehow not in trouble. If you think the media pushing McCain and Giuliani doesn't affect their being in the lead, you go right on believing that.

I never said who I THOUGHT should be in the lead, merely looked beyond the media--MSM and conservative--to what things look like to me. You don't like it, too bad. But if you keep dreaming that organization, internal polling, fundraising, and plain old talk among party workers means nothing, you go right ahead and believe that comforting delusion.

33 posted on 08/29/2006 9:38:58 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: TNCMAXQ

What is VA now? Is it half and half or mostly Repub?


34 posted on 08/29/2006 9:39:02 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone
Sure I do. I follow them closely (hence my comment above). That's why I know they're not Gospel. And they ARE manipulated by controlling predicted turnout.

What I take from all this media-inspired hysteria:

1) Good. Let folks go on believing Allen has lost his chances for President. I disagree, but I am SICK and TIRED of talking about '08 (which started in Nov '04.) So I'm gonna enjoy the break.

2) The media is in a full-court press, and has been, for two weeks now. The best Webb can do is a tie in some recent polls, with Allen at his weakest? And it's in AUGUST?? I'm not impressed.

3) Allen's still got a ton of money. This will likely serve as a wake-up call.

4) Webb's a name-calling lightweight. Can't really see him beating a name-calling heavyweight. Especially an incumbent in a conservative-leaning state.

35 posted on 08/29/2006 9:40:59 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: areafiftyone

VA is considered a swing state I guess though it has been reliably Republican at the presidential level since 1968. The Dems thought they had a shot in '04 but GWB won it by 54-45, as I recall. A solid margin but I fear if a "moderate" Dem were the nominee, he could win it.

The state legislature has been GOP controlled for several years, and they have both US Senate seats now. But unfortunately Dems have won the last 2 governor's races.


36 posted on 08/29/2006 9:41:39 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: MplsSteve

Good point. A damaged candidate for senator isn't in a good position. But then, NO senator is in a good position to win the presidency. Unfortunately, HRC is different in so many ways that the model doesn't work for her. Although I would'nt be surprised if we have two senatros for the ultimate party noms this time, either.


37 posted on 08/29/2006 9:41:50 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: TNCMAXQ
but it will further indicate VA is trending Dem,

Further indicate? Nope. Quite the opposite is true. VA has been trending to the right for the past few elections.

38 posted on 08/29/2006 9:42:33 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: highball
What is wrong with the party, that we keep throwing away very winnable races?

Look in the mirror.

39 posted on 08/29/2006 9:42:57 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: meandog

Holy macaca!

Or is it Macqueque?


40 posted on 08/29/2006 9:43:00 AM PDT by Elpasser
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