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Rabbi defends show linking Darwin, Hitler
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | August 25, 2006 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 08/25/2006 2:04:15 PM PDT by protest1

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A rabbi has launched a defense of D. James Kennedy, whose new television special this weekend will raise an alarm about the bloodshed credited to the influence of Darwin's theories of evolution, and has been attacked because of its message.

Did Hitler practice Darwinism?

The program is "Darwin's Deadly Legacy", a Coral Ridge Ministries production featuring more than a dozen experts in various fields talking about the connections between Darwin's theories, eugenics, Hitler and abortion.

Its premise is that Darwin's thinking changed the world's perception of people, so instead of considering them made in God's image, they became just another organism. Bloggers Internet-wide as well as the Anti-Defamation League launched their criticism in pointed phrases when the airing was announced.

But Rabbi Daniel Lapin, founder of Toward Tradition, suggested reining in the words just a little.

"Some American Jews may believe that Christian conservatives pose the biggest threat to Judaism. Therefore Jews should insult and attack Christians and suppress dissent by constantly evoking the Holocaust while darkly implying anti-Semitism," he wrote in a column addressing the dispute. "God help Jews if America ever becomes a post-Christian society. Just think of Europe."

The program is to air nationwide on Aug. 26-27 on "The Coral Ridge Hour."

"This dazzling production shows how ideas always have consequences, often unintended, and how Darwinism has impacted American culture," Lapin wrote. "It discusses how the philosophy of evolution can dehumanize people and how Adolf Hitler, on his own admission, was influenced by Darwinian thought."

Kennedy, the Coral Ridge founder, acts as host for the program, and suggests, "No Darwin, no Hitler." The program goes even further, linking the two men with the concept of eugenics, formulated after Darwin wrote his theories and before Hitler came to power, with the contemporary abortion industry which does not recognize the value of all unborn human life.

A statement earlier this week from ADL National Director Abraham H. Foxman condemned the ideas.

"This is an outrageous and shoddy attempt by D. James Kennedy to trivialize the horrors of the Holocaust. Hitler did not need Darwin to devise his heinous plan to exterminate the Jewish people. Trivializing the Holocaust comes from either ignorance at best or, at worst, a mendacious attempt to score political points in the culture war on the backs of six million Jewish victims and others who died at the hands of the Nazis," he said.

That came after bloggers had offered stinging criticism about the level of intelligence exhibited by those appearing in the program.

Rabbi Lapin, whose organization works to advance the nation toward "the traditional Judeo-Christian values that defined America's creation and became the blueprint for her greatness," had a different perspective.

“I believe it appropriate for thoughtful Jews to support the Coral Ridge documentary and perhaps even for it to be shown in Jewish schools because there really are only two ways to account for human presence on our planet. One is that God created us in His image. The other is that by a lengthy and random process of totally unaided materialistic evolution, primitive protoplasm evolved into Bach, Brahms, and Beethoven. This approach, ruling out any role for God, is simply incompatible with Jewish values,” he said.

Coral Ridge officials also dealt with the claim that Francis Collins, the director of the Human Genome Project, was deceived when he was interviewed for the program.

"A producer told Dr. Collins in person before the interview began that he was being interviewed for a program that would address the adverse social consequences of Darwin," the Coral Ridge statement said. "In addition, he was asked specifically, during the interview, about the Darwin-Hitler connection and responded on tape that he did not agree with that view."

Coral Ridge considers Collins, whose book, "The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief" was published only months ago, "a highly esteemed scientist and theistic evolutionist," but has agreed to leave his name off promotions and remove him from future airings.

"We consider him a fellow Christian and have reached a friendly understanding with him about this matter," the statement said.

Producer Jerry Newcomb said the show includes WND columnist Ann Coulter, who also wrote the bestselling "Godless: The Church of Liberalism."

She said Hitler simply was taking Darwinism from the theoretical to the practical.

"He thought the Aryans were the fittest and he was just hurrying natural selection along," she said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: adl; coralridge; creation; crevolist; darwin; darwinism; djameskennedy; evolution; hitler; hitlerwasnochristian; lapin; rabbi
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To: protest1

Foxman is such a pompous prick.

The archives are available, the historians have long ago published, and the truth has long been known about the transatlantic Eugenicist school of thought that Hitler was intimately involved with.

Foxman is too afraid to comdemn Planned Parenthood. Founded by one of Hitler's favored Eugenicists, Sanger, and now run by the same Upper Eastside social set that Foxman recedes to after dark.


21 posted on 08/25/2006 4:31:54 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: ghost of nixon
"I didn't say eugenics as an idea did not exist before Darwin. I said that I believe it rose in popularity in Western elite circles fueled by the rising popularity of the theory of evolution."

Without doubt the TOE was discussed in these circles as justification, but it was a misapplication of the theory in the same way the historical persecution of Jews in Europe was generally a misapplication of Christianity. Early anti-Jewish sentiment in Europe was almost always wrapped in a cloak of false religious righteousness.
22 posted on 08/25/2006 4:36:36 PM PDT by ndt
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To: protest1

bump


23 posted on 08/25/2006 4:37:31 PM PDT by VOA
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To: protest1

Rabbi Daniel Lapin, another Jew for Jesus?


24 posted on 08/25/2006 5:41:56 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Never apologise. Never explain. It's a sign of weakness)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Who could be more Jewish than Jesus?


25 posted on 08/25/2006 7:09:18 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Every Rabbi should be defending the Darwin/Hitler (not to mention Communism) connection.

Yes. They should ALSO defend the Mathematics/Hitler connection. And the Physics/Hiter connection. And the Chemistry/Hitler connection.

Oh and the Christian/Jim Jones connection.

26 posted on 08/25/2006 7:11:48 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: scottdeus12
".... This approach, ruling out any role for God, is simply incompatible with Jewish values,” he said"

Incompatible with Chistian values (IMHO) as well.

TToE is silent on God -- not exclusive. Do you attak physics for "ruling out any role for God"? Chemistry? Astronomy?

27 posted on 08/25/2006 7:15:54 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: ndt

One needs to distinguish the science from the philosophy of the time. One might claim that Mein Kampf uses Darwinism falsely, but there is no doubt that he believed in the "science" of eugenics or that Darwin himself did. Not only did it originate with his cousin but his own son was a leading figure of the movement.


28 posted on 08/25/2006 7:25:04 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: ghost of nixon

One could make the point that Darwin was used to justify racism just as Aristotle was used to justify black slavery.


29 posted on 08/25/2006 7:28:14 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RobbyS
One might claim that Mein Kampf uses Darwinism falsely, but there is no doubt that he believed in the "science" of eugenics or that Darwin himself did. Not only did it originate with his cousin but his own son was a leading figure of the movement.

There was no such belief by Darwin.

30 posted on 08/25/2006 7:31:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: RobbyS
"One might claim that Mein Kampf uses Darwinism falsely..."

Actually I pretty much say just that a few posts later.

Also just to add a log to the fire, we as a nation practice eugenics in various forms today, from pre-screening of embryos prior to implantation to abortions of deformed fetuses to our preferences in who we choose to breed with.

I'm not supporting any of these (although I did choose a strong healthy breeding partner) just pointing out that eugenics is a very generic term.
31 posted on 08/25/2006 7:31:55 PM PDT by ndt
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To: ndt
although I did choose a strong healthy breeding partner

You hopeless romantic, you! ;)

32 posted on 08/25/2006 7:55:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: freedumb2003

I suggest you read book the Descent of Man. I can understand why you might resist it, but the fact was that eugenics was widely held by the upper classes in Anglo-America, as was Herbert Spencer's "social darwinism." Class structure is very strong in England to this very day. Back in the 1830 Disraeli wrote a book called "The Two Nations." His thesis was that the upper classes were so different from the lower ones that the two were in fact two separate peoples. The American upper class identified with the English upper class (and still does). Hence the famous case in which Mr. Justice Holmes argues in favor of a policy of sterialization of low-IQ persons.


33 posted on 08/25/2006 8:00:01 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: freedumb2003
"You hopeless romantic, you! ;)"

I have to admit, that the strength of her offspring was not foremost on my mind when we met, merely a side-effect of what I was thinking of ;)
34 posted on 08/25/2006 8:08:41 PM PDT by ndt
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To: Dracian
We've been through this recently on another thread.

Another wasted thread!

Getting pretty sad when this is the best some folks can come up with.

35 posted on 08/25/2006 8:21:31 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: RobbyS
I suggest you read book the Descent of Man. I can understand why you might resist it, but the fact was that eugenics was widely held by the upper classes in Anglo-America, as was Herbert Spencer's "social darwinism."

Your statement was that Darwin was in support of this. It isn't true, period.

36 posted on 08/26/2006 7:37:55 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: Coyoteman
Another wasted thread!

But I always get a kick out of how people recycle the same "arguments" (assertions) that get crushed on previous threads.

It is like they are all Dora from "Finding Nemo."

37 posted on 08/26/2006 7:39:21 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: freedumb2003

A number of quotes can be taken from Darwin to indicate his sympathy for eugenics. The argument I am making is not that Galton or Hitler based their claims on "Origin of Species" but that they appropriated the prestige he enjoyed as
the one who had erected the theory of evolution on a scientific footing in order to change the basis of social ethics in the West. Darwin himself began with the conclusion that evolution was true and then used the data he gathered to build a case. His contribution was natural selection, which was better expressed as "survival of the fittest" by Spencer. It fit in quite well with
racial /social theories of the time which had it that the superiority of western civilization was explained by the superior, more highly evolved cultures Darwin went along with this, because in most respects he was a very conventional person. It was this that helped his book have so much inpact. Wallace had come up with the same theory, but he lacked Darwin's reputution as a "sound" hardworking naturalist, and his appeal to gradualism rather than to catastrophe or suddenly change made his conclusions seem congenial. He resisted anything that favored revolution.


38 posted on 08/26/2006 11:14:25 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: stands2reason

Sorry, I thought that the two options mentioned earlier were that we were created by God (therefore God exists) or that we are here by random chance. The modifiers (image of God) I dismissed as peripheral. For example I don't believe I look like God (although women have described me as Godlike).


39 posted on 08/26/2006 12:04:20 PM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: RobbyS
A number of quotes can be taken from Darwin to indicate his sympathy for eugenics.

…if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an overwhelming present evil. We must therefore bear the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind…(Darwin, 1871, 1896, p. 134).
40 posted on 08/26/2006 12:22:01 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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