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Light Pollution (If you think it's a joke, think again. The movement seeks to change laws)
Campaign for Dark Skies (CfDS.org) ^ | 8-5-06 | J. Appleton

Posted on 08/05/2006 2:32:45 PM PDT by sully777

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To: sully777

It's all the BLUE states fault.


101 posted on 08/05/2006 4:11:49 PM PDT by RichRepublican (Some days you're the windshield--some days you're the bug.)
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To: theymakemesick

Ban overcast!


102 posted on 08/05/2006 4:12:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: kittycatonline.com
"Got somebody who has a telescope? No lights for you! Telescopers' Rights!"

Are you people just saying this just to see who can top who.

Where are you getting the idea that you cant have lights?

let me help you out in English.

A) Point you beloved light towards your house since your light is meant to protect your property.

B) Shield it so the PRIVATE PROPERTY owners next door do not have to be forced to be blinded by your lights. Last time I checked thats called common curiosity. Sadly it's something thats no longer a conservative value to too many people here.

It has nothing to do with telescopers' rights or privileged whiners. It's called respect for places that are not your own.
103 posted on 08/05/2006 4:13:11 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Fitzmas Has Been Canceled.)
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To: VanDeKoik
I thought the article was about "urban sky glow", not common courtesy between neighbors.

I guess the sky belongs to all of us. I don't want jets flying through it because the contrails reduce the amount of sunlight that warms my house in the winter, therefore I have to pay for more gas. Lets outlaw jets.

104 posted on 08/05/2006 4:18:21 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Liberals & democrats: saturated with hate and intolerant of that which doesn't fit their world view)
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To: theymakemesick

I lived on the south of Houston, and every night, there was this glow over everything to the north. My point is that it truly, really exists. ON cloudy nights it never got fully dark because of the light bouncing on the clouds.


105 posted on 08/05/2006 4:18:36 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sully777
Good afternoon.

As long as I get to keep carrying, I could live with it.

The DemocRATs are destroying business anyway, so we might as well get used to living in the dark. We could be just like North Korea.

Is a sarcasm tag needed?

Michael Frazier
106 posted on 08/05/2006 4:21:32 PM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: sully777
Good afternoon.

As long as I get to keep carrying, I could live with it.

The DemocRATs are destroying business anyway, so we might as well get used to living in the dark. We could be just like North Korea.

Is a sarcasm tag needed?

Michael Frazier
107 posted on 08/05/2006 4:22:09 PM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: oldenuff2no

10-4, and quit telling them or they will be out there in hordes.


108 posted on 08/05/2006 4:27:51 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I know it exists, it's just ridiculous that someone wants to outlaw lights at night. You don't need them in the day, right? Do you drive the loop or tollway at night? Don't those lights make it safer "for the children"? If they were turned off imagine the screaming that would come from the child coddlers and all the other safety advocates. It's a city of four million, there's going to be a "glow". Would you want to walk down Scott St. in the dark?

Cheers


109 posted on 08/05/2006 4:28:57 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Liberals & democrats: saturated with hate and intolerant of that which doesn't fit their world view)
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To: theymakemesick

It would really be nice if you read the article. See, had you read it, you would know they don't want to ban lights at night - they just want lighting installed that doesn't light the sky up so much.


110 posted on 08/05/2006 4:30:35 PM PDT by RFC_Gal (It's not just a boulder; It's a rock! A ro-o-ock. The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!)
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To: RFC_Gal
Hmm, I thought I did read it. I wonder where I got this from:

Switch off lights if there are times during hours of darkness that they are not needed, Prevent 'overlighting', i.e. use only the correct amount of lighting for the task in hand, In particularly sensitive (rural) areas ensure that lighting is used only when there is no better alternative, Make external lighting subject to planning control, Encourage industry to use efficient lighting and to minimise the amount of energy waste associated with light pollution, Make light pollution a statutory nuisance and make lighting a planning issue.

111 posted on 08/05/2006 4:34:31 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Liberals & democrats: saturated with hate and intolerant of that which doesn't fit their world view)
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To: theymakemesick
I really get a kick out of this one:

"In particularly sensitive (rural) areas ensure that lighting is used only when there is no better alternative"

What is an alternative to light?

112 posted on 08/05/2006 4:36:05 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Liberals & democrats: saturated with hate and intolerant of that which doesn't fit their world view)
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To: Skooz
I had to cover the bedroom windows with aluminum foil to get any sleep.

Think of all the black helicopter rays you deflected. That old lady was doing you a favor ;-)

113 posted on 08/05/2006 4:36:25 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: sully777

I am all for Light Pollution control. All that light is just waited electricity. Put it in the terms of how much money Governments would save if they could cut their electric bills down. I can stand in my driveway and see 17 government owned streetlights. That is WAY too many lights.


114 posted on 08/05/2006 4:37:04 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Conan the Librarian

That would be WAISTED


115 posted on 08/05/2006 4:37:31 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: theymakemesick

Ban jets!


116 posted on 08/05/2006 4:41:14 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
DOWN with clouds!


117 posted on 08/05/2006 4:42:49 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: theymakemesick
Shiny objects :)
118 posted on 08/05/2006 4:44:05 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Ban clouds, that was a good laugh, thanks!

Cheers


119 posted on 08/05/2006 4:45:43 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Liberals & democrats: saturated with hate and intolerant of that which doesn't fit their world view)
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To: theymakemesick

And that was under the heading "Many things can be done to reduce the problems of light pollution:" before they called for legal means to control the problem.

Your original post implied that they wished to ban all lighting at night which is an incorrect statement.


120 posted on 08/05/2006 4:46:32 PM PDT by RFC_Gal (It's not just a boulder; It's a rock! A ro-o-ock. The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!)
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