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CO: Ban Damage: CO And now, the roofs begin tumbling down
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | July 26, 2006 | Bill Johnson

Posted on 07/31/2006 5:15:29 AM PDT by SheLion

The issue is no longer just about smoking.

Passing a state law outlawing smoking in most public places was, by this comparison, the easiest thing to do.

The law was not required to address the inevitable hardships such a bill was destined to inflict.

There was clapping and backslapping on the floor of the state Senate the afternoon it passed there. But none of that really matters now, when the issue is one of how it impacts people's lives.

They are men and women who once ran tiny, yet prosperous, packed-to- the-kegs establishments, who now tend mostly empty bars. The looks on their faces would be no different had their roofs actually fallen in.

They call me. What am I supposed to do, I ask? Write about it, they respond.

What has happened is a statewide tragedy, sponsored by the government. And where are all of the people, they all want to know, that the government promised would flock to their now-smoke-free bars?

The loudest of them, of course, has been Jim VonFeldt, owner of the venerable Billy's Inn at 44th Avenue and Lowell Boulevard.

In the weeks between the governor's signing of the bill and July 1, when the law went into effect, he rallied a relatively small band of tavern owners to challenge the law in court.

A judge denied their sought-after injunction. The litigation itself remains pending in the courts.

Jim VonFeldt has just returned to Billy's from his banker when he calls me, yet again.

He has owned the place for 21 years; his wife's family owned it for nearly 20 years before that. His two grown children are his only employees.

And now, he wants to talk.

It is just after 1 p.m. when I walk into the joint. The only sound emanates from a television in the corner, droning a detective show. Only bearded, vacant-eyed Jay, who has occupied the same far-corner barstool for decades, inhabits the place.

Jim VonFeldt walks up from the back, carrying a large stack of documents. He begins reading from them.

Total business is off 35.14 percent since July 1, he begins. Liquor sales, jukebox, cigarette, vending and Lotto scratch-off machine receipts have declined in 23 short days by at least half.

"That video golf game used to average $75 to $100 a week. The last two weeks, the vendor and I split the 6 bucks that were in it," Jim VonFeldt says.

"Where are all these people the government told me would make my life better? My most loyal customers come, but maybe they have a drink. Most have just stopped coming altogether."

As leader of the Coalition for Equal Rights, the tavern owners' group, he gets calls every day, he says. Three come in as we chat, including one from the lawyer representing the group.

"This is simply crippling," he moans into the phone to the lawyer. Hanging up, he beseeches me to look at the blue folder in front of him. It is filled with his complete financial records, the same ones he has just handed his banker at Chase to leverage his house to the hilt in order to pay his bills. I decline.

So he hands me his state workers compensation bill.

"I don't have the money. All of my cash flow has been depleted," Jim VonFeldt said. "And if I don't have workers comp, I can be fined up to $17,000. I don't know what I am going to do."

To emphasize his point, he walks me to the automatic teller machine I had used a month before.

A large "out of order" sign now lies across the keyboard.

"I don't have enough $20 bills to put in it," he says.

He reads from a stack of notes taken during myriad recent conversations with Coalition members, of patrons saying they are going outside for a smoke but never come back, of fights the bartenders inside can no longer break up, of thieves cleaning out cash registers when bartenders themselves sneak out for a drag or two.

Many owners, Jim VonFeldt says, are doing what he did two days ago: writing Bill Owens and begging for an exemption to the law.

"The ban has decimated my business," his letter to the governor begins. "I am one or two weeks away from bankruptcy.

"If I lose this, so goes my whole family. Please grant this exemption for my family."

The last sentence he has typed in large bold letters.

While he waits to hear back from the governor, he fumes.

"We've got young men now fighting all over the world for what they tell us is for democracy and freedom," Jim VonFeldt, 60, said.

"Yet our own government is taking away my freedom to operate my business right here at home. It's just not right."

He sighs.

"At a time when I should be planning for retirement and the good things in life, the only thing I'm planning is how to survive. If I fail - and this worries me the most - I fail my children.

"I don't know what I am going to do."


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To: SheLion
CO: Ban Damage

Carbon Monoxide is dangerous. We should ban it.

41 posted on 07/31/2006 6:27:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: SheLion
Hopefully, those legislators that voted for the smoking prohibitions will lose their seat in the next election(s)...

I can't see anyone affected by this law voting for them..

42 posted on 07/31/2006 6:30:25 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom... Not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach
You might like post #16 on this thread.
I kinda helped them out a bit.
43 posted on 07/31/2006 6:35:50 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: SheLion

When the environment you do business in changes, you adapt or die.

This guys a rather poor entrepreneur. He whines his old customers have left, but has done nothing to change his marketing to attract new ones.

I read a story about how he is dedicating his efforts to keep things the way they were, when in fact he should be marketing and working to improve his business in the environment than now exist.

I guarantee some of his competitors are, and they as first movers in this new world are bustling, while he's sitting here doing nothing and losing precious time daily.

For every story of this guy, there is a story of another guy who's been able to adapt and is doing well, or better.

Adapt, or die.


44 posted on 07/31/2006 6:41:42 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Raycpa
For the record, the first poster to make this a personal attack is a smoker.

Personal attack? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

You KNOW what my personal attacks are like. If you consider this a personal attack your skin is growing much thinner than it has been in the past.

Not a personal attack, just an observation.

45 posted on 07/31/2006 6:43:21 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

I always feel sorry for anyone who replaces real life with internet activites.


46 posted on 07/31/2006 6:53:16 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

It IS like Prohibition. I never thot of that.


47 posted on 07/31/2006 6:54:19 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: SheLion

If there was actually a real demand for smoke-free bars, someone would have opened one, gotten very rich, and spawned the latest hot business trend.

Obviously the demand was subzero.


48 posted on 07/31/2006 6:56:54 AM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: RMDupree

It IS about controlling other people's lives 'for their own good.' Makes me want to take up cigars!! I love no-smoking restaurants and airplanes and work-places. Bars ... sheesh.


49 posted on 07/31/2006 6:57:40 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: RandallFlagg
Those cards are a good idea..

Most people don't even know who their state reps are...
Most people don't know who their federal congressional reps are...

Best time to be handing them out though, is the week before elections..

50 posted on 07/31/2006 7:02:16 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom... Not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: SheLion
How about providing exemptions for buying, installing, and maintaining commercial air purifiers ($2K-$5k)?

There are models that are made expressly for the purpose of keeping bars/taverns smoke and odor free.

Seems like a reasonable solution to me. Let 'em smoke in the bar, but "scrub" the air.

But, knowing how politicians operate, it'd probably never work unless you can get the air purifier industry to "contribute" to the Colorado legislature.
51 posted on 07/31/2006 7:02:21 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Technically, we're all Republicans)
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To: HamiltonJay

"Adapt, or die."

First rule of business.


52 posted on 07/31/2006 7:04:41 AM PDT by republicangel
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To: HamiltonJay
Adapt, or die.

This is true, but its one thing when markets change naturally over time, and quite another when government just shuts you down.

53 posted on 07/31/2006 7:07:02 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1400 knives and counting!)
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To: refermech
The workplace where you are a captive audience is another matter altogether.

The bar is a workplace.

54 posted on 07/31/2006 7:12:52 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: conservativeharleyguy
How about providing exemptions for buying, installing, and maintaining commercial air purifiers

Because its not about the air. It's about control and power. Note that it wasn't the people who actually went to bars that wanted to change the rules. It was people who didn't, and still don't, go to bars. They just wanted to deny it to others.

Maybe they got picked on as kids. Maybe they just don't have any friends. Like Ray.

55 posted on 07/31/2006 7:13:18 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1400 knives and counting!)
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To: Raycpa
The bar is a workplace.

Not any more.

56 posted on 07/31/2006 7:17:51 AM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1400 knives and counting!)
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To: RandallFlagg
How can you throw out a general insult towards smokers

By pointing out that there are other consequences to a smoking ban? The poster wanted to make lost jobs from the banning a reason to stop the smoke bans. If the measurement of what we should and should not ban is to be based on cost amd income equations, shouldm't we base it on all of the costs? This family is losing property, some of the drunks who contributed to their bottom line could be costing lives.

My recommendation is to keep your argument about property rights. It is more supportable than crying over the decrease in income because the drinkers are no longer showing up.

57 posted on 07/31/2006 7:23:11 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: stevestras
Anyone that thinks smoking bans are good policy should move to Cuba where government is expected to tell you what to do.

You have the wrong person. I am against government bans. But unless the smokers get a fresh face lift by volunteeringly being more considerate the bans are going to continue.

58 posted on 07/31/2006 7:26:16 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: HIDEK6
I'd call it a false choice.

Just like the premise of the story. I highlighted it by using example.

59 posted on 07/31/2006 7:27:21 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa
RAYMAN! With that post, you have reached the summit of wisdom! You can go no higher! Congratulations!

Say hello to uncle joe stalin for me.
60 posted on 07/31/2006 7:28:22 AM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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