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Finches named for Darwin are evolving
Associated Press ^ | 07/13/06

Posted on 07/13/2006 1:21:13 PM PDT by presidio9

Finches on the Galapagos Islands that inspired Charles Darwin to develop the concept of evolution are now helping confirm it — by evolving.

A medium sized species of Darwin's finch has evolved a smaller beak to take advantage of different seeds just two decades after the arrival of a larger rival for its original food source.

The altered beak size shows that species competing for food can undergo evolutionary change, said Peter Grant of Princeton University, lead author of the report appearing in Friday's issue of the journal Science.

Grant has been studying Darwin's finches for decades and previously recorded changes responding to a drought that altered what foods were available.

It's rare for scientists to be able to document changes in the appearance of an animal in response to competition. More often it is seen when something moves into a new habitat or the climate changes and it has to find new food or resources, explained Robert C. Fleischer, a geneticist at the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History and National Zoo.

This was certainly a documented case of microevolution, added Fleischer, who was not part of Grant's research.

Grant studied the finches on the Galapagos island Daphne, where the medium ground finch, Geospiza fortis, faced no competition for food, eating both small and large seeds.

In 1982 a breeding population of large ground finches, Geospiza magnirostris, arrived on the island and began competing for the large seeds of the Tribulus plants. G. magnirostris was able to break open and eat these seeds three times faster than G. fortis, depleting the supply of these seeds.

In 2003 and 2004 little rain fell, further reducing the food supply. The result was high mortality among G. fortis with larger beaks, leaving a breeding population of small-beaked G. fortis that could eat the seeds from smaller plants and didn't have to compete with the larger G. magnirostris for large seeds.

That's a form of evolution known as character displacement, where natural selection produces an evolutionary change in the next generation, Grant explained in a recorded statement made available by Science.


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1 posted on 07/13/2006 1:21:16 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Naw, ya got it all wrong. This is *micro* evolution. See, that's *totally* separate from *macro* evolution.

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2 posted on 07/13/2006 1:23:12 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: presidio9

This should be in BEAKING NEWS!.........


3 posted on 07/13/2006 1:23:42 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Red Badger

This should be in BEAKING NEWS!.........

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4 posted on 07/13/2006 1:25:19 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: presidio9

The flat earth crowd - oops, I mean the "Young earth" crowd, will discount anything that doesn't agree with their pre-conceived ideas.


5 posted on 07/13/2006 1:25:33 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Red Badger

I will wait for these finches to turn into something else. Meanwhile, I only see the environment favoring one thing over another.

Earthworms don't do so well in the desert, either.


6 posted on 07/13/2006 1:26:09 PM PDT by sine_nomine (A rolling fast beats a rolling blackout.)
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To: Red Badger
This should be in BEAKING NEWS!.........

Evolution is news to a lot of folks here...

7 posted on 07/13/2006 1:26:20 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: presidio9

And the Finches evolved into Finches. Wow!


8 posted on 07/13/2006 1:27:05 PM PDT by Stark_GOP
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To: presidio9
A medium sized species of Darwin's finch has evolved a smaller beak to take advantage of different seeds just two decades after the arrival of a larger rival for its original food source.

Sensationalist headline and article.

Evolutionary events do not occur within 20 years.

9 posted on 07/13/2006 1:27:51 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: presidio9

"That's a form of evolution known as character displacement, where natural selection produces an evolutionary change in the next generation"

So thats what happened to democRATS......


10 posted on 07/13/2006 1:28:28 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: orionblamblam
You are being cynical.

I know Finches are evolving - I was in conversation with one the other day,
11 posted on 07/13/2006 1:29:33 PM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: 12th_Monkey

I don't believe it.


12 posted on 07/13/2006 1:30:47 PM PDT by rovenstinez (,)
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To: sine_nomine

13 posted on 07/13/2006 1:31:06 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Tokra

Well, if these finches are any guide, it will only take about 20 generations for the flat earth crowd to develop smaller brains [if at all possible]. Do not lose hope.


14 posted on 07/13/2006 1:31:20 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: presidio9

Any of them evolved into a duck or an eagle yet??


15 posted on 07/13/2006 1:32:13 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: Red Badger
This should be in BEAKING NEWS!.........

I fully expect that one to fly over a lot of people's heads.

16 posted on 07/13/2006 1:32:49 PM PDT by presidio9 (Albright: The William Hang of Foreign Policy.)
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To: rovenstinez

your right they never had character...


17 posted on 07/13/2006 1:33:02 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: rovenstinez

your right they never had character...


18 posted on 07/13/2006 1:33:18 PM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: presidio9

Adaption being used to prove evolution.


19 posted on 07/13/2006 1:35:27 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: presidio9; Zionist Conspirator
So finches evolved into . . . finches.

And in 20 years no less.

What a dramatic transformation!

In other news, I've noticed that dogs in my neighborhood have evolved into dogs over the past 20 years. And I notice the pigeon eggs in the area have hatched into . . . pigeons.

20 posted on 07/13/2006 1:36:03 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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