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VANITY: Sunday Alcohol Sales....Blue laws good or bad?
Georgia Dawg

Posted on 07/06/2006 11:35:38 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg

Hi all....

FReepers have been very helpful in the past and I wanted to touch base to see if you could help again.

Our city council is debating putting Sunday alcohol sales on the ballot, yet again. The matter has been defeated twice in the past few years, but they are considering the referendum again.

While I am a believer of seperation of church and state, I also believe in keeping the Sabbath holy....can this be reconciled? I'd appreciate any thoughts or comments on any experience any of you have had with this issue...

Georgia Dawg


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chitchat; vanity
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To: GeorgiaDawg

I'm in favor of this blue law. Of course, there was a time that most places were closed on Sunday.

The fact is that those who can't make it through Sunday without alcohol make a run for the liquor store before midnight on Saturday or get one of their military friends to get them on base to the BX. Then of course you can always order a drink at the neighborhood Applebee's after noon.


381 posted on 07/07/2006 12:46:50 PM PDT by jer33 3
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To: jer33 3

Again, this is not about being able to buy alcohol at a store. It is about being able to have an alcoholic drink with your Sunday meal.


382 posted on 07/07/2006 12:50:32 PM PDT by John D
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To: Ouderkirk
It's just unseemly to be buying beer/liquor at 8 am on a Sunday

I assume you have never gone to an NFL tailgate party.

383 posted on 07/07/2006 12:54:02 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: jer33 3

So much for freedom.


384 posted on 07/07/2006 12:56:16 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: billbears
The issue should be whether the stores are open or not, not what they can sell. Course that's just an old Southern tradition long gone by the wayside to keep up with the 'fast paced' yankees who have infested our states IMO.

And this Southern man is indebted to those Yankee newcomers for that very reason. I like 24 hour stores and being able to buy stuff on Sundays.

As long as there is a willing buyer and a willing seller for a legal product, why should anyone object to our transaction?

385 posted on 07/07/2006 1:00:20 PM PDT by timm22 (Think critically)
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To: Froufrou
Like it or not, -- [there is a] reason why [alcohol] gets special treatment, just like tobacco and firearms.
The government doesn't want them in the wrong hands so there are LIMITS to who can buy, and when.

Like it or not, there are constitutional limits on gov't 'special treatments' of booze & guns. -- Or even "wirecutters"

We are all pledged to support & defend the US Constitution [as written] as our supreme law. --- I took an oath to do that when I joined the Army at 18. You question this principle?

Not at all. I question when state and federal laws clash.

You question Art VI's clear words?
"-- This Constitution, ----- shall be the supreme Law of the Land; ---- any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. --" ??

Wire cutters are against the law in TX, yet that's a violation of my right to bear arms. I don't have to arm myself with munitions in order to protect/arm myself.
That was the point of my statement.
One can kill less swiftly and deftly with wire cutters but one can kill, just the same, dead.

?? -- Your new 'wire cutter point' is still not clear. -- Try again.

386 posted on 07/07/2006 1:03:18 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: FreeLuna
The point is that the government should not enact a law that prohibits the sale of a legal product based on a religious belief. If you think it is unchristian to buy alcohol on Sunday then don't buy it.

Worth repeating.

387 posted on 07/07/2006 1:06:32 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Froufrou
This looks like a meltdown.

The only way to make it stop is to stop denying that you're a statist.

388 posted on 07/07/2006 1:20:19 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: timm22

Well that's up to the states and the local municipalities. Or at least it was. And that was the intent of the Framers. Federalist #45 is very clear on that. And if we are to determine the intent of the Framers, we must look to their writings, especially the ones written to convince the public to buy into the Constitution. I may disagree with the stance of blue laws but I find it interesting that until 20-25 years ago, no one had a problem with them.


389 posted on 07/07/2006 1:21:02 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: John D

I think most people plan ahead and will still have alcohol available for their meal. What did we ever do before 24 hour grocery and convenience stores?


390 posted on 07/07/2006 2:11:53 PM PDT by jer33 3
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To: John D

You sure about that? Bars and strip joints are open on Sundays.

I'm sure buying alchohol at the grocery store is worse than watching naked women swing around a pole...


391 posted on 07/07/2006 2:17:56 PM PDT by rattrap
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To: GeorgiaDawg; All

"Thou shalt not drink alcohol on the Sabbath."

Hmm. I can't find that commandment anywhere. BTW, this thread has nearly 400 freaking posts. Amazing for a no-brainer topic.


392 posted on 07/07/2006 3:55:29 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: tpaine
TPAINE! Are you back?

We are all empowered to ignore "the letter" of unconstitutional laws, -- by the pledge we all take to support the constitution, -- as it is written.

Agreed
What about unconstitutional constitutional Amendments? such as, the XIVth?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/682976/posts

393 posted on 07/08/2006 7:47:33 AM PDT by H.Akston (It's all about property rights)
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To: H.Akston
I've never really been gone, hugh, -- despite your best efforts.


The 14th is not "unconstitutional", as that thread resolved:


Faulty foundation of the 14th Amendment
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/682976/posts
394 posted on 07/08/2006 8:39:20 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: EveningStar
Amazing for a no-brainer topic.

If we didn't have a bunch of people scared to death of freedom and crying out for more supervision by the state, things like this wouldn't happen.

I have enjoyed this thread, however.

Very instructive.

395 posted on 07/08/2006 2:23:23 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: tpaine

Tpaine, any amendment that was put into the constitution in violation of Article V, and the XIVth is one such amendment, is unconstitutional.


396 posted on 07/08/2006 5:22:09 PM PDT by H.Akston (It's all about property rights)
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To: H.Akston
Give it up Akston. The 14th is here to stay. -- And it's principles are inherent in the rest of the constitution in any case.
397 posted on 07/08/2006 5:41:39 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine

Sure, it's here to stay, and the Xth is too.


398 posted on 07/08/2006 6:43:06 PM PDT by H.Akston (No tpaine left behind.)
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To: RobRoy; TonyRo76
"blue laws" pertaining to alcohol are hypocritical, misguided, and an excuse for meddlesome bureaucrats to intrude where they don't belong

Is there any point, at all, where the actions of the person who imbibed are anyone else's business, or would that be only if s/he did something that involved/harmed another PERSON?
400 posted on 07/10/2006 7:24:15 AM PDT by Froufrou
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