VANITY: Sunday Alcohol Sales....Blue laws good or bad?

Georgia Dawg

[GeorgiaDawg]

Hi all....

FReepers have been very helpful in the past and I wanted to touch base to see if you could help again.

Our city council is debating putting Sunday alcohol sales on the ballot, yet again. The matter has been defeated twice in the past few years, but they are considering the referendum again.

While I am a believer of seperation of church and state, I also believe in keeping the Sabbath holy....can this be reconciled? I'd appreciate any thoughts or comments on any experience any of you have had with this issue...

Georgia Dawg

[Froufrou]

I'm completely with you on this argument. It's a waste of tax dollars as far as I can see, and having it on the ballot over and over would seem to me to indicate, as you pointed out, special interest groups' [hospitality, you said] control of the situation. Not representative of the people, just the people with their hands in the right pockets, eh?

[GeorgiaDawg]

Exactly. It is akin to the dems not liking the results on the 2000 election and calling a "do over" - twice.

At some point, no means no.

[Froufrou]

If it makes you feel any better, we have a landmark coliseum here that they want to destroy. They've been working on it for years and really trumped up the effort after our lady rodeo chairman died of cancer, coinciding with a Spurs win.

So, they got the new Spurs arena on rodeo land, saving lots of tax dollars since the rodeo owns their land free and clear. Now they're poised to tear down a vital part of the 55+ year history of rodeo, just two years after we made the big time in PRCA.

Likewise, we voted against toll roads, but we're getting them anyway. I don't think I can vote for Rick Perry.

[Al Gator]

Blow it out yer butt turkey. I'm not a conservative. I'm an individualist and libertarian. And if you think you're conservative, you're really a confused soul.

Conservatives don't pass laws that force other people to live according their idiotic beliefs.

Liberals do that, homey. You and the taliban got a lot in common. I see they are killing folks who don't lay down a pray 7 times a day. BTW, they think alcohol is immoral, period. Do you? Get that urge just ban it altogether because jesus said so?

I've wasted too much time with you already.

[Ouderkirk]

Yep...that was a real creative retort. No you're not a conservative. You are a selfish ignoramus trying to pass for an adult.


Grow Up

[rattrap]

Agreed.

You can go get drunk as a skunk in any restaurant or bar on Sunday but you can't buy beer at the grocery store. How f'ing stupid is that? Maybe they're just trying to raise DUI revenue.

[RobRoy]

>>I never understood the law. Jesus manufactured alcohol.<<

In fact, it was his FIRST miracle.

[RobRoy]

>>I am a born-again Christian.
I think "blue laws" pertaining to alcohol are hypocritical, misguided, and an excuse for meddlesome bureaucrats to intrude where they don't belong.<<

From beginning to end, your post states my position exactly!

[RobRoy]

>>It's just unseemly to be buying beer/liquor at 8 am on a Sunday<<

What about hookers before noon?

[AppyPappy]

Rev Swaggart, is that you?

[RobRoy]

I believe Jesus IS the sabbath. But I agree with you that there is simply no way one should ever look at Sunday as the sabbath. The only reasons churches meet on Sunday is that it is the "first" day of the week and it is when the disciples met in the beginning.

The sabbath is either our "rest" or the seventh day, the day of rest. Calling Sunday (the first day) the "sabbath" has simply no justification other than "the traditions of man", of which Jesus was not particularly fond.

[billbears]

The issue should be whether the stores are open or not, not what they can sell. Course that's just an old Southern tradition long gone by the wayside to keep up with the 'fast paced' yankees who have infested our states IMO

[John D]

It's a waste of tax dollars as far as I can see, and having it on the ballot over and over would seem to me to indicate, as you pointed out,


You are not hearing the complete story. The Sunday sales innititive in the past was put on a special election ballot. It is a lot easier to get out the one issue voters for an effort like this. This is the same reason the local school boards are putting a special pourpose sales tax on a special election vote, at an additional cost of $30k, rather than waiting for the general election where the additional cost would be almost nothing. This time it will be put on the general election ballot. I have a feeling it will pass this time.

[RobRoy]

>>Rev Swaggart, is that you?<<

Ok, how about after 3:00. ;)

[stands2reason]

How do these laws make you safer?

[stands2reason]

Oh, I'm sorry, make you feeeeeeeeeeeel safer?

[John D]

You can go get drunk as a skunk in any restaurant or bar on Sunday but you can't buy beer at the grocery store.


This is not about buying alcohol at a grocery store, it is about being able to have a drink with your meal on a Sunday afternoon. The restaurant must seat more than 50, I think, and must have over 50 or 60% of its sales from food.

[Al Gator]

Look in the mirror to see a real infant. If you don't get what you want, why, just pass a law!

You religious nutjob zealots are the ones who gave the ACLU all their power. You're too immature to understand that.

[stands2reason]

Chickensoup, conservatives like laws that work, not laws that just make you feel better.

Can you tell me that these laws prevent drunkenness?

[stands2reason]

See my post #336.

You are not a conservative, you are a statist. There is a difference.