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Silenced: Flight 800 and the Subversion of Justice, Part 1 [10th Anniv. Warm-up]
WND ^ | June 4, 2001 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 06/22/2006 8:43:39 AM PDT by canuck_conservative

Editor's note: On the evening of July 17, 1996, at 8:19 p.m., TWA Flight 800, a Boeing 747, took off from Kennedy Airport, bound for Paris. At 8:31 p.m., over 730 people watched Flight 800 explode, killing all 230 of the people aboard.

Not long afterwards, millions of Americans watched their televisions in fascinated horror as search and rescue crews looked for survivors among the flaming debris. Only dead bodies were recovered.

Flight 800 is mostly an ugly memory for people these days. The U.S. government issued an explanation that a fuel tank had somehow exploded. Yet, they flatly denied any evidence existed of foul play, including the possibility that Flight 800 had been blown out of the air by a missile.

All but a few journalists accepted the government's version of events. Few bothered to investigate the numerous eyewitnesses, the radar records and the physical evidence that all suggested a strikingly different explanation of Flight 800's untimely demise. And those few who did question the government's version were made to look like fools or, worse, thrown in jail and prosecuted as criminals for meddling in an official investigation.

What really happened to Flight 800? ....

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: actofterror; actofwar; anniversary; aviation; brainlessrock; clintoncoverup; conspiracy; crash; explosion; flight800; missile; rockscantthink; rokkebrainisarock; tragic; twaflight800; unsolved; worldnutdaily
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To: Steve Van Doorn
"Again you are stating a false hood."

No, I'm not. I'll repeat what I said..."Not a single bit of evidence was found of any warhead fragments (or anything from the outside) hitting the aircraft.. Now, you claim the following...

"There where hundreds of Fragments that where taken from the coroners office alone, which the coroner was not allowed to use the fragments as a possible the cause of death."

First of all, in any aircraft accident there are lots of fragments, including some that penetrate the accident victims. That does not imply anything criminal like a bomb or missile. Second, where are you getting your autopsy info? Other posters are stating all the passengers were killed instantly when the nose ripped on the aircraft. To my knowledge, autopsy results of civil aircraft accident victims are not publicly releasable.

781 posted on 06/27/2006 9:42:25 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: U S Army EOD

You seem to be going off into diversionary tactics to try to change the subject from the eyewitness evidence, NY Times story, etc. I'm not going to change the subject to 9/11.


782 posted on 06/27/2006 9:46:02 PM PDT by defenderSD (Just when you think it's never going to happen, that's when it happens.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Nope, not even close. In EOD, you stop things from blowing up. In demolitions you do blow things up. In EOD the training is far more technical. I can train a demolitions man in less than a week. We used to do it all the time with emergency destruction teams or ammunition handlers blowing unserviceable ammunition.
The EOD school last about nine months or so.


Yes, you're a real wonder.

It is a wonder you didn't blow yourself up. One has to be a sergeant and airborne qualified to even attend basic SF Q course, which very few complete. The last I heard it was less than 5%. A Special Forces Combat Engineer basic takes 44 weeks after Q. Then advanced training goes on and on. I was a senior combat engineer, which we commonly call a demo man, but it involves far more than demo.
783 posted on 06/27/2006 9:48:00 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: GarySpFc

How much active duty do you have in Special Forces?


784 posted on 06/27/2006 9:50:00 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (i)
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To: radialenginefan
""ole shaky" was in fond reference of the C-124."

Well, you got me there. That was WAY before my time.

"You might as well put your guard down, and be friendly about it"

Weren't you the guy who said...""Gets your ducks in a row fella, (ping Rokke?), cause your BS session with the Freeper community has ended."

"You flatly told me warheads were not made of composite matrix"

I did?

"So instead of being a stick in the mud, give me a hand"

I am giving you a hand. I am revealing all the errors and fallacies in the conspiracy crap surrounding TWA 800.

785 posted on 06/27/2006 9:50:42 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: U S Army EOD
“On a different subject, tell me what brought down the WTC and all the "scientific" reports on that.”

You have to understand. This was a time period when Clinton took over the US judiciary system by illegally firing hundreds of judges and replacing them. He fired the all of the joint chief of staff all at the same time. He corrupted the FBI to its core with Waco as kind of a test bed of how far he can go (at least in my opinion.) We know now he was selling technical plans to build nuclear weapons to Iran and China for Campaign contributions.

I can go on and on... But the bottom line is FBI could not be trusted back then.
I am telling you we where closer then most people want to believe to a civil war.

786 posted on 06/27/2006 9:51:38 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: defenderSD

No not at all. We are talking about conspiracies and thought processes. We are not going to solve the WTC building failure.


787 posted on 06/27/2006 9:52:11 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (i)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

So you trust the FBI data over NTSB?


788 posted on 06/27/2006 9:54:51 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (i)
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To: U S Army EOD


Kestrel was also adapted for anti-aircraft. Unlike it's antitank implosion, largely due to the tank's contact with the ground, Kestrel acts like a high velocity spear puncturing the thin A/C skin and exiting the opposite side.

Just a thought.

789 posted on 06/27/2006 9:58:22 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: U S Army EOD

OK, well just for the record, I haven't analyzed the WTC collapse to any extent. So I accept the 9/11 Commission Report that the buildings collapsed because of weakened steel caused by fire, heat, and structural damage from the airplanes hitting the buildings. Now, can we get back to TWA 800?........LOL.


790 posted on 06/27/2006 9:58:46 PM PDT by defenderSD (Just when you think it's never going to happen, that's when it happens.)
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To: radialenginefan
"The Withheld Flight 800 Shrapnel Evidence"

Again, I don't like to read other people's summaries. I like to read the source if its available. In this case, it is. Here is a link to the decision.

Sephton V. FBI

The litigant was never seeking tangible pieces of shrapnel evidence. He was seeking the FBI records concerning their investigation of that evidence. They got it according to the courts. Perhaps your disgust would be more accurately directed at the FOIAC, who managed to make a normal court proceeding look like a conspiracy.

791 posted on 06/27/2006 10:02:56 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: U S Army EOD
"So you trust the FBI data over NTSB?"

excuse me?

792 posted on 06/27/2006 10:04:00 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: BIGLOOK

Early in Vietnam we had an H21 shot down with a crossbow. It pass through an open door and hit a hydraulic line and forced it to land.

What would you think the range and guidance of that missile is. I have never seen one, but I am going to guess that once she goes down range a bit, those three penetrators will be ejected forward with much energy. Look at them close and you will note they have little fins on them for stability.

I sent in several suggestions on ammunition. Some were actually used and some were not. I always wanted to see a fluchete round for the 120mm main gun on the tank with fluchettes about as large as your thumb that worked like the beehive rounds or the old (true) sharpnel rounds that had an ejection charge in the projectile that would go off down range.

My guess is why the weapon you posted was developed, was that it was hard to penetrate a modern main battle tank with missile by use of a shaped charge. This would do it with kenetic energy.


793 posted on 06/27/2006 10:07:49 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (i)
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To: defenderSD
"OK, well just for the record, I haven't analyzed the WTC collapse to any extent. So I accept the 9/11 Commission Report that the buildings collapsed because of weakened steel caused by fire, heat, and structural damage from the airplanes hitting the buildings. Now, can we get back to TWA 800?........LOL."

The difference being they are omitting what caused the damage with regard to flight 800.

794 posted on 06/27/2006 10:09:58 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: defenderSD

Any time a conspiracy nut from the left ask you about explosives, ask them if they know the flash point and melt point of explosives. Then ask them how the explosives and explosive trains survived the fire. It gets them every time. But remember also what I said about thought process and believing what you want to believe.

An example is the Special Forces guy who has lost total track of the argument and his only mission is to try a discredit me at this time.

PS: Gravity was also a big factor in the WTC collapse.


795 posted on 06/27/2006 10:15:04 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (i)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

You said the FBI data showed evidence of an explosion.


796 posted on 06/27/2006 10:17:33 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (i)
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To: defenderSD
"What is the motive for this intense effort that I've seen by a few posters on this site?"

Advocacy of the truth. The Clinton Administration did plenty of illegal things in its eight years. Clinton ought to be in jail for many reasons. But if we lurch out on unproven conspiracy theories that would involve the illegal participation of a lot more than just the Clinton Administration, we trash a lot of innocent parties and shoot ourselves in the foot. The strongest weapon in the quiver of the new media is a strong adherence to demanding facts and not relying on bogus or wrong information (ala Dan Rather). If we allow ourselves to be duped by the shabby nonsense posited by conspiracy theory con artists, we do more damage to ourselves than anyone else.

797 posted on 06/27/2006 10:17:47 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: defenderSD
"I'm saying that eye witnesses saw and identified a missile traveling up to the airplane. That is the exact word used by a number of witnesses: missile."

You are wrong. Almost none of them used the word "missile".

798 posted on 06/27/2006 10:19:47 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Who are "they" and what does who omit on what?


799 posted on 06/27/2006 10:23:41 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (i)
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To: U S Army EOD
No, it was someone (forgot his name now) that took an illegal photo of the plane pieced together that shown proof of an explosion. That man got 20 years for that photo.
800 posted on 06/27/2006 10:24:04 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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