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1993: Murtha Called For Retreat from Somalia on House Floor!
Sweetness and Light ^

Posted on 06/17/2006 11:32:39 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear

Sweetness and Light has posted transcripts off Murtha's call for retreat from the House floor from Somalia in 1993 along side the 9/11 Report findings that doing so emboldened UBL and Al Qaeda. Is Jack Murtha proud that his call for retreat from Somalia inspired UBL's attack on America?

Read it all here!


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: haditha; iraq; ireyforcongress2006; marines; murtha; murthawatch; somalia; terror; usmc
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To: BluH2o

The NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, at NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN are all woosies, too.

But then, we knew that.


61 posted on 06/18/2006 8:03:15 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: cricket

The most frustrating thing the Republicans tend to do is to ALLOW the 'Rats to verbally run amuck without so much as a "But that's not true" to slow them down. On talking head shows, Republicans will, about 75% of the time (if not more often) just sit there and look silly and guilty while the 'Rats spew their lies. Anyone watching would see this and think, hmm, well, what the 'Rat said must be true, certainly no one is challenging the 'Rats.

Does anyone in the Republican Party (besides possibly Tony Snow) have the backbone and integrity to call a lie a lie--in public?


62 posted on 06/18/2006 8:06:45 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Murtha is an occupant of the left end of the intelligence bell shaped curve.


63 posted on 06/18/2006 8:17:59 AM PDT by hgro
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To: cricket
My understanding of Representative Murtha's resume is poor. How does a battalion staff officer end up with 2 Purple hearts? Were intelligence offices routinely attacked during that 1966-67 period?
64 posted on 06/18/2006 8:23:50 AM PDT by Bernard (God helps those who helps themselves - The US Government takes in the rest.)
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To: MizSterious
The most frustrating thing the Republicans tend to do is to ALLOW the 'Rats to verbally run amuck without so much as a "But that's not true" to slow them down. On talking head shows, Republicans will, about 75% of the time (if not more often) just sit there and look silly and guilty while the 'Rats spew their lies.. . .

Sooooo right; and I also get totally frustrated by their 'lack of response'. . .it is like they have been over-groomed on civilities. ..look even silly or worse; when they just smile or chuckle. . .as the verbal 'rat train' runs over them;

. . .and when it is passed. . .they respond; but not in 'kind'. I think these Repubs imagine that the audience sees what 'we' see. . .and there is no reason to respond to such pettiness and/or downright lies. . .as if they ignore it. . .the listening audience will too. . .they over-estimate the audience separating the myth. . .from the lie; and the lie from the truth.

Think these Repubs make huge mistake with their assumtions; by whatever reasons they have for remaining silent - in the face of enemy attack and public ones. . .

We all know the impact of the repetitious lie. . .when not stopped.

They should too.

Look how excited we get when Bush finally 'scores a truth marker' by a face-on confrontation. . .(not often enough; better, that we should be used to it. . .and same for the rest of Repubs)

Think that is why Ann Coulter; despite her twice over the top responses; gets high-fives from so many Repubs. She goes to the mat. . .for the truth for all of us.

If more would go only half as far. . .she could fly more safely. . .just once over the top. . . so to speak. :^)

65 posted on 06/18/2006 8:42:16 AM PDT by cricket
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To: MizSterious
Does anyone in the Republican Party (besides possibly Tony Snow) have the backbone and integrity to call a lie a lie--in public?

Don;t know who of the 'big guys'. ..certainly no one to make a huge difference. I have yet to understand re Fox News. . .what is 'fair' about printing as fact; what they know not to be. . .

The other segments on Fox News deal with it fine; but the news media is looking more and more bankrupt honing news for and by. . .those who are politically correct.

66 posted on 06/18/2006 8:58:56 AM PDT by cricket
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To: Minus_The_Bear

BTTT


67 posted on 06/18/2006 9:00:26 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Bernard
My understanding of Representative Murtha's resume is poor. How does a battalion staff officer end up with 2 Purple hearts? Were intelligence offices routinely attacked during that 1966-67 period?

My 'understanding was that it was poor as well; without even looking closely. . .as per, no doubt the included warning of 'Conservative tin-tin foilers/spoilers' attached w/Murtha bio in above posting:

*** Supporters of Murtha have noted a pattern of Conservatives making an issue of the war records of decorated veterans--including John Kerry, Max Cleland and John McCain.*** /

Yes, if they are a Democrat. . .and in politics AND served in our Armed Forces; the Conservatives will not have any of it. . .

. . .they will scratch, sniff. . .and then make their compost heap of judgments against these honorable men. ..who just happen to be Demrats.

You betcha!

68 posted on 06/18/2006 9:08:44 AM PDT by cricket
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To: Minus_The_Bear

I wonder what his coke dealing armed robber of a son is doing these days? Last time I heard his "daddy M" got him a cushy benefited job in the PA dept of water conservation.

All coke dealing armed robbers should have a daddy like Murtha.


69 posted on 06/18/2006 9:13:18 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: onyx; Texasforever

WHAT DID HE/SHE SAY??


70 posted on 06/18/2006 9:14:37 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Sam Hill

You're right - I was in error. My bad...


71 posted on 06/18/2006 9:15:46 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: cricket

Have you ever actually seen a democrat supply the same sort of proof they demand of a republican whose military record they have assaulted?


72 posted on 06/18/2006 9:16:12 AM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: usmcobra
Have you ever actually seen a democrat supply the same sort of proof they demand of a republican whose military record they have assaulted? Never; and won't ever. . .happen.

Save in my dreams. . .where Demrats are treated as equals - not arrogantly better; more intelligent. . .kinder. . .more compassionate. . .than. . .Repubs.

I am sure most of here had that one. . .at least once! ;^)

73 posted on 06/18/2006 9:38:18 AM PDT by cricket
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To: Minus_The_Bear

"Is jack murtha proud?"

Sure, he is proud that he can cite every on of our fallen heroes in an effort to support lib loonacy. He is a disgrace and I wouldn't feel badly if he had a massive heart attack and died.


74 posted on 06/18/2006 9:45:38 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Murtha was spouting off about this the other day during debate on the House floor. It was truly unbelievable! I wish someone could find a transcript--I saw it on CSPAN. He was bragging how he told Clinton to get out of Mogadishu etc. He makes me sick!


75 posted on 06/18/2006 9:53:05 AM PDT by the-gooroo (Real men don't pull out.)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

BTTT


76 posted on 06/18/2006 10:49:18 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: cricket
He remained in the Reserves after his discharge from active duty until he volunteered for service in Vietnam in 1966-67, serving as a battalion staff officer(S-2 Intelligence Section), receiving the Bronze Star with Combat "V" for valor in combat, two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry.

That's quite impressive for an S-2 Staff Officer for one year of duty. It would be impressive for a line combat officer as well.

The article states he served 66-67 in Nam. It doesn't say where in VN or what outfit he seved in.

Do you know his outfit? And also did this info come from his released official military records?

77 posted on 06/18/2006 10:54:22 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: AngryJawa
Murtha is as dirty and connected as a mob boss. He will try to destroy Diana; no holds barred. It will weigh on his conscience less than it bothers him to use our troops as expendable pawns in his political games.

Assume that she will get little support from the state committee or the RNC. WE HAVE TO BE HER SUPPORTERS AND DEFENDERS in order to get rid of this dangerous irresponsible man. The lives and reputations of our heroes are literally at stake.

78 posted on 06/18/2006 11:25:13 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: cricket
Like Kerry, Murtha's medals came for surface wounds that never caused his evacuation from the battlefield, and like Kerry, he attempted to get his medals by political manipulation, in Murtha's case, through then-Rep. John Saylor. But Saylor's office felt it was odd for Murtha to seek medals for "superficial lacerations."

Murtha's mangled medal stories

As Yogi Berra once said "this is deja vu all over again".

And BTW the info you posted came from Murtha's Web site.

79 posted on 06/18/2006 11:34:42 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
That's quite impressive for an S-2 Staff Officer for one year of duty. It would be impressive for a line combat officer as well.

More than impressive. . .one might add; given the above. Apparently generated enough curiousity for others to investigate this. . .only have to 'google' to see the pained results.

But of course, it is a 'Conservative' thing. . .

That said, the info I picked up was from 'source watch'. . .had 'bio' etc. I suspect the bio was put together by his own staff. Certainly sounds 'well-crafted'. . .

Also sounds like Murtha challenged the 'Peter Principle' and lost. . .in a manner of speaking. . . Link

80 posted on 06/18/2006 11:55:52 AM PDT by cricket
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