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Paleo-Conservatives Departing The Grand Old Party
Renew America ^ | 6/4/2006 | Bonnie Alba

Posted on 06/10/2006 6:20:18 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy

Conservative Republicans held such hopes when Pres. Bush was heralded into office and the Republicans gained control of the Congress. That was then, this is now.

According to recent polls, conservative republicans are perplexed by the non-conservative actions of this president and the Republican-controlled Congress.

As I probed this latest confusion I found that I, and millions of other citizens, are f-o-s-s-i-l-s. According to Wikipedia Encyclopedia online, we are "Paleo" or "Old" conservatives. We are living fossils, 'about-to-become-extinct' hangers-on of the Grand Old Party which no longer appears to represent traditional conservatism.

The Republican Party in its essentials has been taken over by a mutation. Wikipedia describes this line of thought as "Neo" or "New Wave" conservatism. It's tenets are not really new, just enjoined by present-day politicians and citizens as the direction our nation should pursue. But it is contrary to many basic "Paleocon" principles.

"Paleocons" believe in the principles of limited government, limited spending and borrowing, limited intervention into citizens' lives, and states' rights. They also believe in restraint of foreign entanglement, a strong national defense and traditional family values

"Neocons" believe in an agressive foreign policy, empiric intervention in other nations to spread democracy, and global economic-trade policies. Weak on domestic policies, they lack emphasis on national issues. Their vision includes motivating our nation towards what I believe Pres. Bush's father referred to as the "New World Order." Include growth of government and overspending too.

Sound familiar? Now we know why the media refers to Pres. Bush and his administration as "Neocons." Many congressional Republicans belong in this catagory too.

The Republican-controlled Congress has acted and evolved in accordance with the mutant Neocon concept of overspending and overgrowing government, ignoring the burgeoning National and Public Debt approaching $40-60 trillion, most of it owned by foreign investors.

Recent crises and scandals such as social security, medicare, tax reform, earmarks, budget deficits, illegal aliens and gasoline prices gain the media spotlight for a few days or weeks. Then they seem to fade away, crammed together on the "we'll deal with you later"shelf. Always later.

My wake-up call came the morning I woke up to Howard Dean saying, "The first thing we want is tough border control, we have to do a much better job on our borders than George Bush has done." Though I knew this was blatant political rhetoric, it was shocking because I completely agreed with him.

Pres. Bush and the Congress have ignored domestic security of our homeland, borders and ports — until it was raised by the people! But if I agree with a liberal democrat, that does not a democrat make.

It is clear that the Grand Old Party has evolved and mutated which leaves a large conservative group, the Paleocons, scratching their heads and wondering what happened? I, for one, feel isolated from the GOP. The Party has entombed the Paleocons on the sidelines, bleached fossils, puzzled eyes peering at the GOP's total embrace of Neo-conservatism.

There is excited talk about Congress gearing up and acting on a few issues before the upcoming elections so they won't lose voters. I've got news for them. They have already lost citizens like this old fossil, who have reflected on the last five years of non-conservative actions.

Where's the limits on spending, limits on growth in government, adherence to the U.S. Constitution? Where's the traditional values and seeking the good of the nation as a whole instead of the corruptive influence of special interests? Yes, there are a few "Paleocons" in Congress but they are not listened to nor even heard amongst the clamor of "Neocons" and "Liberals" calling each other names.

I am a living fossil as are million of citizens, which brings me to the point. Where's the party that speaks to my conscience? I am past that retort: "Oh no! you must vote Republican or the Democrats will win!" Oh Please! I say — so what? Has it made any difference?

The Grand Old Party appears to have accepted this "Neocon" mutation, to move towards a world economy policy, open borders and the "New World Order." Why would I, this old fossil of white-bleached bones, vote for any republican candidate? No longer does the Republican Party speak to or for my "conscience."

As for this Paleocon, I am searching for a party that matches my "conscience." This is the one freedom citizens still have in this country — a citizen's privilege and responsibility to vote his or her "conscience." This old fossil takes this duty seriously.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 3rdpartyidiot; ancienttimes; bs; conservatives; darkages; getjobspaleos; gop; howarddean; irrelevant; livinginavacuum; losers; mnjohnnieisback; neoconservatives; parishandpoverty; propaganda; vote3rdpartyandlose; whitetrash
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To: FerdieMurphy
No longer does the Republican Party speak to or for my "conscience."

ditto

41 posted on 06/10/2006 7:08:11 AM PDT by mmercier (so it goes)
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To: Beagle8U

Is any one of the gripers aware that the number of non-military government employees has gone DOWN?


42 posted on 06/10/2006 7:09:25 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: jpsb
Yup, "I did not leave the GOP the GOP left me".

The GOP was more liberal 20 and 30 years ago.

43 posted on 06/10/2006 7:10:39 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: MNJohnnie
There is a REASON your idol only got 1% of the vote in 2000.

It is because Pat's supporters did not want Gore to win. They switched votes for Bush. If they were as rigid as Ralph Nader supporters Gore would be the president.

The real support for Buchanan might be about 30% of Republicans and 10% of Democrats. This would translate into 17% votes he got at one moment.

44 posted on 06/10/2006 7:10:48 AM PDT by A. Pole (Evolution has demonstrated that the optimal IQ is the average IQ !)
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To: Ditter
No paleos, no power. It's as simple as that. As for stupid, who has had 5 years plus to do deals with Ted Kennedy? Neo conservatives like Bush and McCain. It is stupid and arrogant to alienate your base.

I'm no Buchanan worshipper. I voted for Bush twice. I think he has done great things re the WOT. We got two fine justices, but almost got Harriet Myers, until we dragged the President kicking and screaming to someone more, shall we say, conservative? It seems to me that "neo" conservatives are more like democrats circa 1960.

45 posted on 06/10/2006 7:11:00 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Miss Marple

I doubt they would notice facts, it spoils their rant.


46 posted on 06/10/2006 7:11:06 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of STUPID for breakfast)
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To: Miss Marple

You know why?

They are now Gov't contractors, not GS/GG, etc...


47 posted on 06/10/2006 7:12:01 AM PDT by dakine
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To: Beagle8U

John McCain had to be dragged kicking and screaming to vote to repeal the tax.

Bill Archer chairs the House committee that has been purposely holding up the repeal of the Death Tax for over a decade.

This Republican Congress is NOT conservative, at least in the Free Republic sense of the word.

They are not just toothless and spineless; they are downright MODERATE !


48 posted on 06/10/2006 7:13:20 AM PDT by colonel mosby
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To: dakine

Even if you are correct, which I am not sure about, that would mean they are contracted to perform certain tasks, and when finished their contract is up. They also are not covered by the government employee health insurance and retirement plans, and are not members of the union. I would think this is a GOOD thing.


49 posted on 06/10/2006 7:14:32 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
The main difference between Paleocons and Neocons is that Neocons have evolved to recognize that in a world with ICBMs, Terrorism, etc. that an isolationist National Security policy does not and cannot work.

Neocons are not conservatives. They are the globalists who will move to the left (Democrats) in a blink if it they find it expedient.

50 posted on 06/10/2006 7:14:39 AM PDT by A. Pole (Evolution has demonstrated that the optimal IQ is the average IQ !)
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To: jpsb

Hence, it's been my tagline for quite some time now...


51 posted on 06/10/2006 7:14:45 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

"After eight exhausting years of the Dynamic Clinton Duo's perverted administration and despite the fact that I'd be gagging constantly, I'd vote for McCainiac before I'd vote for HRH Hitlery von Rottenham Klinton!"

I wouldn't. If I'm gonna have to suffer under a liberal, it can damn well be a Democrat. I will NOT vote for a Republican who has dissed the social conservatives the way that John McCain has.


52 posted on 06/10/2006 7:14:51 AM PDT by Dreagon
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To: FerdieMurphy; Admin Moderator
Johnnie has a severe case of rectitus and is usually ignored.

You personally attack another poster and you don't even ping them to the personal attack. That's two rules violations in one post. And you do it on a thread that you are given the privilege to start.

Real nice piece of work.

53 posted on 06/10/2006 7:15:14 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: A. Pole

That's the bottom line.


54 posted on 06/10/2006 7:15:41 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: colonel mosby

"They are not just toothless and spineless; they are downright MODERATE !"

If you want them as a group to be more conservative, get rid of the RATS.


55 posted on 06/10/2006 7:16:00 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of STUPID for breakfast)
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To: StrongBlackWoman

Yeah, Johnnie just comes on a thread and calls everybody he can think of as many names as possible. He isn't out for debate or dialogue, just to inflame. He epitomizes what he criticizes.


56 posted on 06/10/2006 7:16:05 AM PDT by Luke21 (Democrats hate us, our heritage, and our religion. They think we belong in cages. Never forget.)
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To: frogjerk
BUSH brought the fight to the terrorists...

None of the 9/11 bombers were from Iraq. And there was a good reason why Ronald Reagan was supporting Saddam Hussein.

57 posted on 06/10/2006 7:16:07 AM PDT by A. Pole (Evolution has demonstrated that the optimal IQ is the average IQ !)
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To: FreeReign
Sorry to offend.

A reflexive action done without thinking.

One thousand pardons.

58 posted on 06/10/2006 7:19:25 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: FreeReign

#56 sums up the situation with more eloquence than I am capable of mustering.


59 posted on 06/10/2006 7:21:02 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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To: colonel mosby

"John McCain had to be dragged kicking and screaming to vote to repeal the tax."

The whole tag-team puppet show is getting a bit old, to me. McCain needed to be on record in favor of repeal for the Republican presidential primaries. But, he also needed the appearance of resistance to appeal to his beloved "moderates." And so, the proper scenario for him to be both, simultaneously, was (surprise, surprise) provided for him. Pure stagecraft. The final vote tally was negotiated before the fact.


60 posted on 06/10/2006 7:21:12 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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