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Gay and Lesbian Catholics Will Enter Catholic Cathedrals Nationally On Pentecost Sunday
Yahoo News ^ | May 23, 2006

Posted on 05/23/2006 1:58:25 PM PDT by NYer

CHICAGO, May 22 /PRNewswire/ -- The following statement was released today by the Rainbow Sash Movement (RSM). The RSM will respond to the fear and intolerance of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual Transgender (GLBT) persons, by many of our Catholic Bishops on Pentecost Sunday, June 4, 2006. We will be entering, with our straight allies, Catholic Cathedrals across the nation on Pentecost wearing Rainbow Sashes as a sign of identification. Some Bishops have welcomed us in the past, and we are thankful for their welcome.

Nationally our Bishops have lobbied against our human rights. Our grief is intensified because many in the GLBT Catholic Community feel alienated from the Church because of this assault on our human rights. We believe the Bishops have a serious obligation to root out structures and attitudes that discriminate against the homosexual as a person. A small number of courageous Bishops are exerting their leadership in behalf of this effort, and these Bishops will have our full support and prayers.

The Gospels reveal that, while Jesus did not hesitate to proclaim radical ethic of life grounded in the promise of God's kingdom, he never ceased to reach out to the lowly, to the outcasts of his time even if they did not live up to the full demands of his teaching. Jesus offered forgiveness and healing to all who sought it. And when some objected to this compassion, he responded: "Let the one among you who is guiltless be the first to throw the stone,"(John 8:7)

We are followers of Jesus Christ, and Catholic. This is why members of the Rainbow Sash Movement will wear Rainbow Sashes on Pentecost Sunday. We see homophobia within the Church as both an opportunity for education, and a way to promote the idea of love of neighbor. We are calling for dialogue.

To find out more, and get involved with Rainbow Sash Movement please visit our Web site at http://www.rainbowsashmovement.com, or email: Sashmovement@AOL.Com




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To: VRWCmember
And there are multiple words translated "abomination" that have different meanings and varying degrees to which something is deemed "detestable". Why do you imply that they are all equal?

And so are you claiming that homosexuality is the worst of all *abominations* in the Bible? And are you claiming that there is some kind of hierarchy of sins? Are some considered by you to be no big deal and others, like homosexuality - to be so bad that there is a special commandment agsint them, for instance?

221 posted on 05/24/2006 10:35:22 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: NYer

Thank you for the link. I did go there and was pleasantly surprised to see that for the most part, our liturgy is almost word for word with your Order of the Mass. I would say about 90% the same.
The sanctuary is lovely.


222 posted on 05/24/2006 10:38:16 AM PDT by wayoverthehill
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To: VRWCmember
And it becomes nobody's business if they don't try to force society to redefine its institutions like marriage, and if they don't publicize their bedroom behavior and insist that we approve of it as normal.

I think they are looking for the same liberties as everyone else has - meaning that they want the financial and legal perks that married couples get.

223 posted on 05/24/2006 10:38:41 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
Yep, we all have the tendency toward sin. The word of God instructs us as brothers and sisters to confront each other when we see the other sinning. We aren't to just shrug our shoulders and accept sinful behavior - we are to be battling against it, especially in the church.

By the way, if the person confronted refuses to repent, they are to be put out of the church.

224 posted on 05/24/2006 10:38:55 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Sunsong
Though your post is interesting - it does not answer my point.

Actually it completely refutes your point. You tried to equate all "abominations" and I showed quite plainly that there are different words for "abomination" with different meanings, and that one of those words had different meanings depending on the context.

Do you work hard to eliminate all *abominations* or just one, and if only one, why?

It is not our responsibility to try to eliminate all abominations. It is our responsibility to do justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with our God. It is our responsibility not to walk in the counsel of the ungodly, nor to stand in the way with sinners, nor to sit in the seat of the scoffers. Therefore, if someone comes into a church and tries to force that Church to accept and condone a behavior that the Bible specifically prohibits (both in the OT and the NT), that person or group should be opposed by the Church. Perhaps you haven't noticed in all of your assertions of "hatred", but this is not a case where people are trying to criminalize homosexuality; it is a case where a group of homosexuals is trying to force acceptance of their perverse lifestyle on the Church.

225 posted on 05/24/2006 10:41:51 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: dcnd9
Most here agree. It's because they flaunt what they do in their homes, demand acceptance of said chosen behavior as normal and demand their choice to be legislated we all have an issue with!

I don't like to see sexuality flaunted - either heterosexual or homosexual or whatever else there may be(g). And if people *demand* acceptance of something that I don't accept - I contintue not to accpet it. Lots of people are demanding in this world and most of the time the people see through that. What I think homosexuals want is the legal and financial perks that married couples get. In other words they want the same liberties as everyone else has.

226 posted on 05/24/2006 10:42:20 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
I think they are looking for the same liberties as everyone else has - meaning that they want the financial and legal perks that married couples get.

They have the same liberties that everyone else has. They just don't know the difference between liberties and perks.

227 posted on 05/24/2006 10:43:33 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: marshmallow
It's called a .......*gasp*......joke.

Possibly in bad taste but, yes, an attempt at humor.

It doesn't strike me as funny. But I will take you at your word that it was a joke.

228 posted on 05/24/2006 10:44:07 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

No one is saying you can't post on the topic. Spare me the strawman. (Although if you think this is "a public site," let me be the first to assure you, it certainly is not.)

I'm trying to ascertain why anyone should care what you think about Catholicism, given that you are NOT Catholic, and your only interest in it is to tear it down because it doesn't honor homosexual sin.

You're just another queer rights activist who is completely irrelevant to Catholicism, save for your trolling of this thread.


229 posted on 05/24/2006 10:45:59 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: NYer; All

What other sex fetish can be identified by sash.

Perhaps they should have a leather sash for those into leather?

How about a swinger sash? That whole fidelity in marriage thing is just a "suggestion" right?

Isn't that the steps of an episcopal church in DC?


230 posted on 05/24/2006 10:49:06 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sunsong
I said: ROFLMAO

You replied: How very liberal of you to attack personally rather than deal with the content of the link.

Good grief. Is that all you got? My "rolling on the floor laughing my ass off" at Gay and Lesbian Adventist websites is not a personal attack. It is a derisive dismissal of you. Get it straight.

Are you working hard to eliminate all *abominations*? or do you focus on only one and, if so, why?

I reject the premise of your compound question. However, you do continue to amuse me.

231 posted on 05/24/2006 10:49:10 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Sunsong
I am also interested in how much hatred there is here against homosexuals and why people think that hatred will serve their cause.

You're bearing false witness.

232 posted on 05/24/2006 10:49:52 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Sunsong
Sunsong: "Are you working hard to eliminate all *abominations*? or do you focus on only one and, if so, why?"

"If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every part of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at the moment attacking, then I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Him. " - Martin Luther

233 posted on 05/24/2006 10:49:57 AM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: Ann Archy

I think it is time for the dollar bill ribbon campaign again.

Fight absurdity with absurdity.


234 posted on 05/24/2006 10:50:41 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Good post.

The whole thing is really utterly ridiculous. But here we are. We can't even distinguish between male and female, let alone right and wrong. We must equate sexual unions that cannot even "unite" without the aid of a strap-on sex organ substitute with the clearly natural complementary union of male and female. It is so ridiculous we should all be laughing if the consequences were not so serious.

I don't think it is that exaggerated but yes, the Supreme Court in Lawrence ended the effort to make the sexual *act* illegal.

I live in Utah. There are a lot of homosexuals here but they are not doing the kind of open and depraved acts in public that I read about in other states. My opinion is that this is a states' issue and that if a state condones what I would not be confortable with - that I probably wouldn't want to live in that state.

235 posted on 05/24/2006 10:51:40 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong
What I think homosexuals want is the legal and financial perks that married couples get. In other words they want the same liberties as everyone else has.

*************

And yet this article addresses their desire to be accepted by the Catholic Church, an issue that has nothing to do with legal or financial "perks". What homosexuals want or don't want the state or federal governments to provide has no relevance to the Catholic Church or its teachings.

236 posted on 05/24/2006 10:52:38 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Technical Editor
Nobody is condemning anyone. The sin is being condemned. Those who advocate the sin are being OPPOSED.

If that that were true. I would very much like to see that be the case - but I have actually read this thread and others and there is plenty of condemnation going on.

237 posted on 05/24/2006 10:53:44 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong



"What I think homosexuals want is the legal and financial perks that married couples get.... "

Given your statement....

Should all other abnormal sexual proclivities also be granted the same gays demand?


238 posted on 05/24/2006 10:54:36 AM PDT by dcnd9
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To: VRWCmember

No I haven't but I will write down that particular name for future reference. I believe Christ Church in Plano is very conservative too. Do you know, by any chance?


239 posted on 05/24/2006 10:58:04 AM PDT by wayoverthehill
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To: FJ290
Being filled with all iniquity, malice, fornication, avarice, wickedness, full of envy, murder, contention, deceit, malignity, whisperers,

Detractors, hateful to God, contumelious, proud, haughty, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Right, so my question is where are the threads and efforts to change the US Constitution in order to elminate all of these more serious *sins and abominations*?

Christian compassion and civil law doesn't call for that now, but people who engage in this conduct should worry about the death sentence to their souls if they don't repent.

And that is between the sinner and God, isn't it?

240 posted on 05/24/2006 10:58:07 AM PDT by Sunsong
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