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"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


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To: Xenophobic Alien

Tell us how you REALLY feel. Don't hold back. :)


921 posted on 05/17/2006 11:17:40 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: kitkat
Anyone who votes for a democrat now is being duped into losing their rights, including free speech,

A agree with you that the democRAT party has been hijacked, but being duped does not make them the enemy. The enemy deserves no pity, no mercy, no chance to live. The enemy wants us all dead, and the only appropriate response to that is to turn it back on them. I don't want to have to apply that to Americans with whom I simply disagree,... not just yet anyway.

922 posted on 05/17/2006 11:17:45 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: alnick; Jim Robinson

Look at all the good FR has accomplished over the years. If we allow the trolls to take over, all that will be lost.
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I appreciate your point.

However, as long as JimRob has breath and keyboard capacities . . . as long as mods support him and FR's values and goals . . . as long as some of the rest of us can support them actively on FR and off . . .

it won't happen.

Praise The Lord, for that.


923 posted on 05/17/2006 11:17:48 AM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Xenophobic Alien

nice knowing ya


924 posted on 05/17/2006 11:17:52 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)
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To: Torie; Cboldt

"What is the Vitter amendment by the way?"

cboldt has been doing a great job summarizes the bills and amendments

http://cboldt.blogspot.com/


925 posted on 05/17/2006 11:18:02 AM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: wallcrawlr

What's OSFT?


926 posted on 05/17/2006 11:18:09 AM PDT by mafree
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To: ClancyJ

ya still ain't gettin it. That's OK.


927 posted on 05/17/2006 11:18:40 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Pukin Dog

I have a list of posters who use the 'bushbot' slur when referring to fellow freepers. THAt one is an insult directed at FR and one I will not let go unchallenged or unreported to AM. Insulting a freeper is a means to infalme the thread and reflects very negatively upon our FR home. BTW, thanks for this missive, dog, you nailed it!


928 posted on 05/17/2006 11:18:40 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Xenophobic Alien


You're history.


929 posted on 05/17/2006 11:18:41 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Rokke
You highlight it as being more pertinent than this nearly 1000 post (and growing) thread but you didn't even bother to comment about it? Just kind of ironic.

Not really. Just because I didn't post on a thread doesn't mean anything one way or the other.

You had time to post again and again on that thread for hours after I posted to you. I pinged you to that same post several times to remind you it was there. Days later, you still haven't responded.

I think you're telling me that it hurts your feelings when you get ignored. Sorry I don't have interest in discussing the issue with you.

930 posted on 05/17/2006 11:19:02 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Rebelbase; Jim Robinson

Please don't suspend Rebelbase's account.

RB: Just get away from the computer, strap on the old Les Paul and crank it up to 11 for awhile. Give it a few days.

Peace, bro'.


931 posted on 05/17/2006 11:19:03 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: Xenophobic Alien

Nice knowing ya, Xeno.


932 posted on 05/17/2006 11:19:06 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

***The best I can gather from this post is that there can be no debate because if you disagree with the Bush stance you are evil. This defies my brain's natural ability to reason and conservative principal. ***

If you SINCERELY want to disagree with anything on FR, then we'd sure like to hear YOUR WORKABLE solution to a problem. Put yourself in the President's place, knowing that Congress has broad powers in many matters and that he is also fighting a war on terror. If you come up with a workable solution, we'd all be glad to hear it. In fact, we'll send it to the White House. And if you don't have a WORKABLE solution, then back up the President who is doing everything any man can do to save this country.


933 posted on 05/17/2006 11:19:15 AM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: Smogger
I for one have no intention of weakening the President when he is in the middle of waging a war, the consequences of losing which, are unthinkable.

Hear, hear!

934 posted on 05/17/2006 11:19:23 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
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To: Pukin Dog; robertpaulsen

I know warnings are done as well, as a buddy of mine was going round and round with a poster and decided to spam keywords to mess with him. He found out that mods were not taking kindly to that and a message to him solved the issue post haste.

Part of the reason it solved the situation was becasue he had respect for how tough the mods job really is. Seems some like to think it is the most gracy thing a person could aske for.

To those folks I say...be very very careful what you wish for.


935 posted on 05/17/2006 11:19:42 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: All

Hey everyone, I went to lunch, I come back and a fist fight has broken out here.

Its sucked in Jim Rob, we have moderators shouting "prove it", one suspension, two that look like they are on their way.

Everyone just calm down. I just went to lunch. I'm back now. I'm OK. I had the Gyro. It was good.


936 posted on 05/17/2006 11:20:08 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Admin Moderator; Lead Moderator

I will not question the moderators' judgement.
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Please note: This is an attempt at self-deprecating humor and is not, in any way, to be construed as an attack on the Lead Moderator, the Admin Moderator, Jim Robinson, Free Republic, or the Republican Party or any sort of complaint. I'll go back to my corner now.
937 posted on 05/17/2006 11:20:32 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Coop

I love that word 'crystal.'

Didn't Nixon use that in some context?

And thank you. We love facts and documentation. That date was an important one, also.

May we never ever forget.


938 posted on 05/17/2006 11:20:38 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: mafree

It used to be a fun place where Freepers got to know each other...diff from all other threads...


939 posted on 05/17/2006 11:20:53 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com/)
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To: CougarGA7
I had the Gyro. It was good.

With cucumber sauce?

940 posted on 05/17/2006 11:21:00 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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