Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

"A HOUSE DIVIDED" - Pukin's FReeperversary Rant

Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog

Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858

It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?

A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.

Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.

We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.

In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.

The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.

The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.

We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.

The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.

Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.

I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.

This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.

Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.

I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?

Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?

If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.

Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.

Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?

Do it for Pukin.

I knew that you could.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: breakingvanity; cereal; civilized; debate; dignity; fintanwashereandleft; honor; intelligent; juvenileramblings; notfeelinthelovehere; pingpower; reasonable; respect; tpd; trollexorcism; vanity; zotdissenters
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 881-900901-920921-940 ... 3,681 next last
To: Pukin Dog
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda.

EXCELLENT POST!!

I especially agree with the comments about the President.

Thanks for postin', Pukin'.

901 posted on 05/17/2006 11:14:34 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: alnick
Maybe the solution is for all of us to report attempted hijacks as we run across them.

Yes, yes and Yes!

902 posted on 05/17/2006 11:14:44 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (God bless our fine military and their families.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 884 | View Replies]

To: Sir Gawain
"Is that some sort of requirement?"

You highlight it as being more pertinent than this nearly 1000 post (and growing) thread but you didn't even bother to comment about it? Just kind of ironic.

"Yep, your allies on that thread wore me down. By the time I was going to reply it was past my bedtime. Big deal."

Well there goes the big BS flag. You had time to post again and again on that thread for hours after I posted to you. I pinged you to that same post several times to remind you it was there. Days later, you still haven't responded. Maybe you've been too busy posting anonymous keywords. But I'd be happy to read a response now. My questions are still valid.

903 posted on 05/17/2006 11:14:47 AM PDT by Rokke
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 796 | View Replies]

To: La Enchiladita
I have followed the thread meticulously the past 20 or so minutes. One poster could not recall EVER (typo said every) hearing the Prez say "God bless America." You replied with a phrase that was close, but not exact. I replied with the exact phrase and date.

Sorry if my point wasn't crystal clear.

904 posted on 05/17/2006 11:15:06 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 893 | View Replies]

To: trubluolyguy

That is what we are complaining about - you "damn the party" and the party is all we have that has a chance at bringing about change.


905 posted on 05/17/2006 11:15:18 AM PDT by ClancyJ (To cause a democrat to win is the most effective way to destroy this country.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 610 | View Replies]

To: AmeriBrit
FR-Sanity comes from our founder (sorry to kiss up again, Mr. Robinson), I didn't restore it. It was just getting brutal around here, and the Laura Bush thing pushed me over the edge. When the poster did it, I asked him to ask the mods to remove it on his own, before they caught it. He ignored my suggestion, because he could not turn down his own anger. Now, the poster is gone, when he could have taken the opportunity to own up to a mistake.
906 posted on 05/17/2006 11:15:30 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 876 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson

I'm damn glad we agree on that one. Now how about some fiscal conservancy?


907 posted on 05/17/2006 11:15:36 AM PDT by Toby06 (I'm a conservative-I'll support conservative candidates. That does NOT necessarily mean republican)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 887 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson
So, seal the freaking borders already. Doubt many here are arguing against it.

However, the Senate shot down enforcement first. And the folks in the Senate who shot it down are Bush's allies in getting his guest worker program passed. Meanwhile, the pubbies in the House who are running for re-election say enforcement first.

So where does that put us? Bush and Senate RINOs are siding with the likes of Hillary and Teddy. Conservatives are saying enforcement first - conservatives up for re-election this year. Who do YOU side with?

908 posted on 05/17/2006 11:15:47 AM PDT by dirtboy (An illegal immigrant says my tagline used to be part of Mexico)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 887 | View Replies]

To: Coop

Are you talking about the same Minutemen organization that is being undermined but the US Government?? Its the Governments job to watch and secure the border. The Minutemen are only there because the US Govt refuses to do the job.


909 posted on 05/17/2006 11:15:54 AM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 882 | View Replies]

To: Vicomte13
So yes, there will be a "meanwhile". 2007 will be the meanwhile. And the Republicans will have that time period, while Congress and the President do isometrics and everything is paralyzed, to add a Sealed Mexican Border to their list of "untouchable" issues, and nominating a candidate who promises it.

I for one have no intention of weakening the President when he is in the middle of waging a war, the consequences of losing which, are unthinkable. If Democrats are able to take control of a branch of Congress it will be a victory for all of those that are calling for our immidiate withdrawl from Iraq. They will redouble their calls for withdrawl, they will obstruct and obfuscate, and call for impeachment. They will severely undermine our chances for victory in Iraq, and the entire doctrine of pre-emption. This simply cannot be allowed to happen.

910 posted on 05/17/2006 11:16:03 AM PDT by Smogger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 862 | View Replies]

To: Vicomte13

You're just one of many predicting doom and gloom. Say it enough and maybe it'll happen.

I am optimistic that the voters will realize that the democrats are in favor of full amnesty.



911 posted on 05/17/2006 11:16:07 AM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 890 | View Replies]

To: nicmarlo
There is some truth to what you are saying.....but this country has been divided for much more than you are saying.

What PD wrote here, you haven't addressed. His main point, I think, is that the border-bots are dividing us unneccesarily, being helped by Kos kiddies and Duers who want us divided, and if successful will rule us in ways you will absolutely hate.

If the border bots foresake us, no matter what is done......(and it now seems to me they have forsaken conservatism so they can pout and prove how right they are)......you will lose in unspeakable ways when the Dems take over.

If the Dems take over:
1. The WOT will cease, and radical Islam can regroup
2. We will all get tax increases and our economy will shrink, putting us in serious danger.
3. The judiciary will be re-packed with judges that do things like....hmmmmmm.......forbid the public from not paying services for illegals.
4. The judiciary will be packed with those who vote for the culture of death, more Schiavvos and no hope of reversing the carnage of Roe v Wade
5. More and more regs on you personally, and the free market.
6. The Dem platform is hideous, and they will push hard and succeed for it.

Do you really want those things to happen? This when the President actually proposed half of what you want, which is border security? You only answer by saying Bush must be lying or be insincer......I want that security as much as you, but the border bots seem to want to just rant now.

Wait until the Dems are in and they have their way. Votes for all illegals, every single position you hold dear even in the anti-immi debate will be gone forever.

So decide.......you want them? Just keep it up, they're coming and will love the help of the border bots.

912 posted on 05/17/2006 11:16:08 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 793 | View Replies]

To: alnick

That's a good idea. But several of us need to do it. I don't like swamping the mods either, and I think I can count on one hand the number of times that I've hit the abuse button. But enough is enough! Good post.


913 posted on 05/17/2006 11:16:12 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 884 | View Replies]

To: Pukin Dog
"...or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis,..."

I gotta admit, that alone is a pretty good reason for supporting the President. Not that your essay was not excellent all around.

914 posted on 05/17/2006 11:16:15 AM PDT by Radix (Why do they call them Morons when they don't know so much? Shouldn't they be called Lessons?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jim Robinson
Rimjob your a fucking troll. This website is fast becoming the joke of the internet. Why don't you take your money that you've stolen from every donater to this website and go buy yourself a wife somewhere.

Bring back Dasher and Peacebaby and ban yourself, then stick this website up your ass. Trollmonkey.
915 posted on 05/17/2006 11:16:35 AM PDT by Xenophobic Alien (WWDD??)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 799 | View Replies]

To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Hey, quit trying to spoil it.


916 posted on 05/17/2006 11:16:52 AM PDT by pissant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 832 | View Replies]

To: Xenophobic Alien
Bring back Dasher and Peacebaby!


Dasher is the one who invited me to join here. I was wondering why I haven't heard from her.

We met volunteering at a Support the Troops Rally.

What a great lady - terrific sense of humor. Sorry to hear she's gone.

917 posted on 05/17/2006 11:17:02 AM PDT by dougmilner (Space rented by Derllak)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 802 | View Replies]

To: Toby06

How do you know they're sneaking in if nobody (including you) is looking?


918 posted on 05/17/2006 11:17:10 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 898 | View Replies]

To: Xenophobic Alien

Good grief. And goodbye for good.


919 posted on 05/17/2006 11:17:32 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 915 | View Replies]

To: Toby06
You also must have missed the Malaysian "Massage" (actually "manual stimulation" would be a more appropriate term) on Sunday morning.

Mother's Day.

920 posted on 05/17/2006 11:17:37 AM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 885 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 881-900901-920921-940 ... 3,681 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson