Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." – Abraham Lincoln, 1858
It is getting somewhat strange around these parts when not only the President, but yesterday the First Lady was personally attacked by someone claiming to be a ‘Conservative’. Can there be any doubt that there are forces among us looking to drive a wedge between us?
A few weeks ago, this forum’s owner attempted to remind all of us of the big picture, that regardless of any personal animosity towards the President or Republican Party over their adherence to Conservative principles, that they are still a clear choice over the alternative Democrat Party rule. At that time, I assumed that FReeper-sanity had been restored, and that some of the negative rhetoric aimed at those in Washington D.C. would be dialed back.
Free Republic is a political forum with a proud history and vision, responsible for dragging Dan Rather from his post, and providing countless radio-talk shows with their daily talking points. FReepers are unique in their determination and energy towards protecting and defending the goals of our Founding Fathers.
We are also quite a powder keg of emotion and anticipation, expecting our Republican majorities to take advantage of this opportunity to make permanent gains in our Conservative agenda. Some might argue that this opportunity has been squandered, but those persons would be ignorant of history, lacking understanding that change cannot occur overnight in Washington, and that this is the way our Founders designed our Republic.
In frustration, impatience, and ignorance, we have allowed this forum to become a haven for those who do not share our Conservative goals. I do not blame our enemies anymore then I would blame a scorpion for stinging me. If anger and stupidity were one’s nature, I would expect the trolls that infect this forum to be angry and stupid consistently, which also makes them somewhat easy to detect.
The trolls are not the problem, though. The problem is that so many of us are allowing ourselves to be taken in by those who seek only to prevent us from going to the polls in November to keep their stinking hands off our government for another term. There can be no doubt, that no matter how disappointing our current government has been in promoting the Conservative agenda, that the alternative, enabled by our staying home will be MUCH worse.
The way to deal with Republicans who have actively worked against our goals is to defeat them in Primary elections. We do not even have to defeat them all, only enough of them to send the message that we will indeed target them if they work against our agenda. It should be the goal of EVERY conservative to see that Lincoln Chaffee is defeated in November. His seat is one we can afford to lose. Were I a Rhode Island resident, I would vote for the Democrat if only to send a message to Snowe, Hagel, Collins, Graham, and especially that bastard Specter that their primaries just got a lot tougher.
We only need to get one of them, and Chaffee is the one to get. It does not really matter if a Democrat takes his seat; he will be junior and mute as long as we maintain our overall majority in the Senate.
The one thing that bothers me here like nothing else, is the simple disrespect of the President. Am I am Bush-Bot? Damn straight I am. If you want to know why, click on my handle to read Southack’s excellent list of Bush’s accomplishments in office. But if Bush had done almost nothing in office, it would be no excuse for some of the slights and disrespect he has received from some of us on this forum.
Some of the things I have read here this past week match in tone what one can find on our favorite Democrat sewer site. Someone calling himself or herself a FReeper was promoting shooting aliens at the border until they stopped coming. Is that what we are about? Obviously not, and that so-called Conservative has been eliminated from this forum.
I think it is important to remember that you and I have just as much responsibility as George Bush does in changing our culture to better reflect Conservative values. Right now, this very moment, Conservatives have the government they deserve. We put them there. They are not our mommies and daddies sent out to bring home our Conservative bread. That responsibility lies with all of us. These Republicans represent us, they don’t serve us. Our job is to pick the best individual and send him/her to Washington in the hope that their CHARACTER will see them through.
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.
I want every one of you to think about what you would consider to be your perfect mate. Maybe some of you think you have found that person. If you are married and totally in love with another person, that is great. Now I want to ask you to think about the last time that person you love, who is PERFECT for you, completely pissed you off. Remember, this is your perfect mate, your one true love. Do they do everything you want them to do? Obey your every desire? If you answer yes, I am going to put you on my troll list.
Those people in Washington do not even cut your lawn, yet you expect perfection. Get over it.
I am issuing a challenge to every person who considers him or her to be a Conservative; why don’t we all commit to a return to HONOR? Do we honor our Conservative agenda when we comport ourselves in disgraceful ways? Is it an honorable thing to suggest that our President is a moron, as I read here a few days ago? Is it honorable to attack Laura Bush or any other person representing true Conservative values?
Some of you might argue that George Bush is not representing Conservative values to your liking. I would remind you that the first thing Bush said upon taking office, is that he was going to be President of ALL the people, not just some. You know that if you followed Bush from the beginning that he campaigned of the very immigration platform he is defending right now. Did you vote for him? Yeah?
If you have ever had a steak at a Ruth’s Chris restaurant, you know that sometimes they bring that wonderful steak to your table with a sprig of parsley on it. I hate parsley. Hate it. If I were to treat my steak the way some of us want to treat our President, I would have to throw out the steak, due to that nasty parsley that comes with it. I can deal with the parsley to get the steak, and that is what I am asking FReepers to do.
Expecting perfection from any person, group or team is a recipe for disaster. George W. Bush is my president. You can disagree with him, you can blame him for your problems if that is your desire. If you disrespect his office, his service, his risking his life to be with our troops in Iraq, his steadfast desire to bring a new tone to Washington, or if you just like the way he keeps Democrats so pissed off they lose their minds on a regular basis, I ask you to treat him and his wife with respect and cut the personal attacks. If you call him ‘Shrub’ or ‘Jorge’ consider yourself my enemy.
Right now, our real enemy are the Main Stream Media, the Democrat Party, and all who follow and support them. If you want to jump-ugly on someone, why not start with those leaky bastards and give our side a break?
Do it for Pukin.
I knew that you could.
My pal antiguv thinks Hagel is the greatest. Don't mess with my pal. He has a razor sharp mind. :) You will regret it. Sorry to jerk your chain antiguv, but I just had the irresistible impulse. What is the Vitter amendment by the way?
Nobody's looking? So who is making all those arrests? Who are these Minutemen people?
I think I read a Mod saying that posts meant to hijack non-immigration threads would be pulled.
Maybe the solution is for all of us to report attempted hijacks as we run across them. Generally I don't like to swamp the Mods, but good people are leaving FR while others are accomplishing their goal of making FR look like a loony bin, which undermines the conservative cause.
Look at all the good FR has accomplished over the years. If we allow the trolls to take over, all that will be lost.
You also must have missed the Malaysian "Massage" (actually "manual stimulation" would be a more appropriate term) on Sunday morning.
The Democrats ARE communists. There are many good patriotic Democrats who love this country, and are UNAWARE that their party is partially funded by and often led by out-and-out Communists. I don't know how old you are, TV, but I've been watching the spread of communism in this country for over fifty years. Anyone who votes for a democrat now is being duped into losing their rights, including free speech, and everything else guaranteed to us by the Bill of Rights.
So, seal the freaking borders already. Doubt many here are arguing against it.
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Give it a rest, friend.
"Nothing like poll watching."
I don't watch polls.
I listen to people.
Here. On Rush. On Laura. At work. On the weekend. On my own various conversational threads elsewhere.
BorderBots on their fence are like I am about pro-life judges.
The polls will even lie and tell you the President scooped it out. One poll published today said that just 2% of opponents to the President - 2%! - oppose him primarily on immigration issues. That sort of poll is a willful attempt to drown the truth. But the poll in November will tell the true tale.
And so am I, now, in the hopes that enough people will listen and come to their senses.
Give the BorderBots their FENCE, and we WIN for sure.
Don't, and we probably lose.
That then, in 2007, we'll turn around and put the Fence in the platform so that we'll win in 2008 is a good consolation prize.
But I don't like losing any battles at all.
We don't HAVE to lose in November, but we DO have to lose if we don't bring back the BorderBots.
And the only thing we can give that can do that is their Fence.
So let's not bicker, and agree that the party needs to give them their fence, so that we don't have to give them the fence anyway, as the minority, in 2007.
Then what IS a lie?
The SOUTHERN BORDER cries for security from illegal invasion. Worry more about the Northern border for A-Q.
Try to be honest, you suggested landmines. Totally unacceptable, and that was the reason your comment was deleted.
I am not questioning that, never have. I'm sure I heard it also.
So, your point? Please follow the series of posts and replies, to avoid misundersanding.
I have also heard the alternative that I posted.
Many of the ones that claimed they wanted troops out now were put on the spot to spot to VOTE that way and when push came to shove they refused. There was no trick, just a simple vote that could be judged on its merits.
Please notice that almost all the pull out now crowd was hushed at that time. Sure some still call for it now and they are akin to the ones in Iraq that when we do finally pull out will claim they were right all along and that their actions drove us out.
Israel deals with that very thing and look what was claimed when they did leave Gaza!
Many will talk impeachment but very very few will actually persue it. I dare them to try.
And guess what? That is a small minority of the posts made asking for greater border security. Just as folks on my side of the debate objected strenuously to the idiotic Vox Day column today.
Condemning both Bush presidencies. You're a troll.
Conservative (small "c" conservative, that is)estimates are there are 11 million ecomnomic terrorists from mexico. If only 1% were alquaeda, that would still be more than we killed in Iraq. Nobody knows, because the flow is obviously free if 11 million can pour through. Damn, I can heardly sneak in a couple cases of real Labatts Blue, these guys sneak in their whole families!
Something to think about. We do not intend to be taken over by that third world country. If we will go to Iraq to protect this country - we may have to go to Mexico to protect it.
And, it would probably be a lot, lot cheaper. But, hey, this is just talk - it will never happen. The dems would be upset.
I think I should part company with you for the time being. Please suspend my account until after the 2006 elections.
At that point the significance of the immigration issue will have revealed itself via the polls.
Regards,
Rb.
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