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Mexico, ACLU Preparing Lawsuit Against US Over Guard Deployment(..bloodshed on our borders ?)
Sierra Times ^ | Wednesday May 17, 2006 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 05/17/2006 3:52:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

A representative from Mexican President Vicente Fox claims that if the US National Guard troops detain illegal aliens crossing the US-Mexico border, the Fox government will file a lawsuit against the Bush Administration in US federal court. There are some political observers who believe that the American Civil Liberties Union is preparing to assist the Mexican government in such a lawsuit. In fact, the ACLU sent a statement to the Mexican government regarding their stance on immigration enforcement.

As Congress moves forward to reform our nation’s immigration laws, the ACLU said the US must reject measures that threaten to increase the bloodshed on our borders. "Innocent peoples’ lives and liberty should not be threatened by this dangerous deployment," said ACLU Director Anthony Romero.

Following President Bush's speech on Monday night, the American Civil Liberties Union urged the president and congress to reject any measures that fail to uphold the letter and spirit of our laws and encouraged lawmakers to adopt immigration reform that protects the freedom and privacy of all in America. Conservatives are wholeheartedly in favor of upholding the "letter of the law," but it's the so-called "spirit of the law" that leads to the problems in the US on a multitude of issues, they say.

"Turning immigration enforcement policy into another military operation is not the answer. The president’s proposed deployment of National Guard troops violates the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the military from getting into the business of civilian law enforcement," says Romero.

Mr. Romero failed to mention how National Guard troops are routinely deployed fully armed for disasters such as Katrina or terrorist attacks such as 9-11. In fact, during riots and other dangerous incidents, Guard troops are deployed without hesitation on the part of elected officials.

(Excerpt) Read more at sierratimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aclu; alien; aliens; election; elections; mexico; nationalguard
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1 posted on 05/17/2006 3:52:30 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Yep, pretty unConstitional. The government trying to defend its borders and control immigration. Where on earth did the federal government think it got that authority?


2 posted on 05/17/2006 3:56:01 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: IrishMike

Is not border protection one of our greatest Civil Liberties?


3 posted on 05/17/2006 3:58:56 AM PDT by Socratic ("I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.")
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To: IrishMike
Of course Fox doesn't want to see the criminals that are let out of Mexican jails stopped at the borders..That is how he recycles in Mexico..Sent the trash to America..Fox can go straight to you know where ..
4 posted on 05/17/2006 3:59:29 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: Always Right
It sure couldn't be Article 4 Section 4. The US Senate just threw that little bit of the Constitution in the trash.

L

5 posted on 05/17/2006 4:00:43 AM PDT by Lurker (Insanity is repeating the same action again and again yet expecting different results.)
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To: Beth528

He learned well when Castro emptied the jails and the asylums and sent them here to the dumbest president in the history of the Nation....... Jimmy Peanuts.


6 posted on 05/17/2006 4:02:41 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: IrishMike
Like Levin said....Mexico already has troops guarding their side so whats the diff.

The border is already militarized.

7 posted on 05/17/2006 4:03:54 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: IrishMike

"The president’s proposed deployment of National Guard troops violates the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the military from getting into the business of civilian law enforcement," says Romero."

Posse Comitatus only limits the use of FEDERAL troops in domestic law enforcement. Doesn't apply to the NG.


9 posted on 05/17/2006 4:08:27 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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To: IrishMike

This will be thrown out of court if the judge has any sanity left.


10 posted on 05/17/2006 4:09:36 AM PDT by RoadTest (The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? (Jer. 17:9))
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To: DugwayDuke

Plus border security is, always a national / Federal responsibility.


11 posted on 05/17/2006 4:10:55 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: IrishMike
There are exceptions to Posse Comitatus.

Click here and scroll a bit for a brief discussion.

Applicable in this case: If the NG is operating under state authority and/or for illegal drug interdiction (which was passed by Congress, BTW, so the folks on the Hill can't plead ignorance).

12 posted on 05/17/2006 4:11:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Thanks.


13 posted on 05/17/2006 4:11:52 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: IrishMike

The Mexicans should know that would be a bad idea.Americans don't react well to being sued by criminals.


14 posted on 05/17/2006 4:11:58 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: DugwayDuke
"The president’s proposed deployment of National Guard troops violates the spirit of the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the military from getting into the business of civilian law enforcement," says Romero."

IMHO Protection of the country's boarders is not the job of civilian law enforcement. It is the reason we have a military!!
15 posted on 05/17/2006 4:14:35 AM PDT by Denny0205 (Life is tough; it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: IrishMike

The ACLU and Mexico suing the US govt for protecting the borders.

This will not be good for Democrats.


16 posted on 05/17/2006 4:15:52 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ICE, ICE Baby.)
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To: IrishMike
Jimmy Peanuts. LOL... i like the way you changed it...

Before i used to think and assume that on this aspect of American problems the President knows exactly what to do in favor of the country's interest as what is expected of him... but as things are going on recently, im not sure how the President and his folks will solve this crisis... just like any other country in the world, protecting the borders at any cost seems to be a common sense... but it seems to be very different with the Most Powerful Country in the World.

17 posted on 05/17/2006 4:16:11 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (There is no such thing as Moderate Islam...)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Well, FWIW, if I understood the folks on FNC this morning, technically it won't be the government of Mexico doing the suing. But the government of Mexico will be providing the lawyers to the illegals who want to sue. Maybe the Mexican government will be footing the bill for the ACLU, who doesn't seem to do as much pro bono work as it used to.
18 posted on 05/17/2006 4:19:35 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: IrishMike
If President Bush doesn't wake up and realize that this is a hostile invasion then I'm afraid we are going to have a bloody war.

I teach ESL students in Texas and I've never encountered so much prejudiced hatred as from a huge percentage of my students, and it's all because I'm a white American woman.

I have to force them to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. It's infuriating.

They hate us and they think that our country really belongs to them, so they have very condescending attitudes toward white people.

19 posted on 05/17/2006 4:24:18 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum
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To: IrishMike

Enemies foreign and domestic that are placing this country in jeopardy. Let the socialist pigs file all the lawsuits they want lets. triple the National Guard now and let's tell foxy to shut up and we are suing them for telling a SUPER POWER what to do in OUR COUNTRY!!!


20 posted on 05/17/2006 4:32:52 AM PDT by stopem (Sorry illegals the jobs are drying up you will be loitering a long time!)
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