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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

I searched but did not see a thread already open for tonights speech. I think this is the most important speech the President will probably make for the remainder of his term.


Mod Note:
This could turn into a whack-a-troll thread. All immigration trolls that would like to participate should post here. It'll be interesting to see if we mods can whack the trolls faster than they can sign up new accounts.
Jim


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: anchorbabies; bohica; borderspeech; bush; bushspeech; criminalaliens; enforcement; govwatch; guestworker; incompetence; invasion; scamnesty; shamnesty; speech; temporaryworker; test; trojanhorse
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To: TheLion

"Jobs Americans are not doing" was the funniest line of the evening.

If Americans are not hired for them, then I guess they are not doing them.


1,521 posted on 05/15/2006 6:15:40 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: TigersEye
" Of course there is a middle ground between amnesty and mass deportations. Secure the borders and apply the law to employers. He failed to say word one about the latter."

I wish there was something--anything--about tonight's speech that I could point to as real progress and a change in course to stop the invasion of illegal aliens into the United States.

I can't because there wasn't anything.

1,523 posted on 05/15/2006 6:15:43 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: clawrence3
How about if the "guest workers" were forced to return to their home countries to apply for the program?

See my tag. I am OK with that.

1,524 posted on 05/15/2006 6:15:49 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: Biblebelter

>>>To be on the side of Teddy Kennedy and Vincente Fox will always find you against the best interests of the American people.<<<

Exactly!


1,525 posted on 05/15/2006 6:15:50 PM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: Revel

Do you not agree that we have 3 branches of govt? judicial, legislative and executive? do you not agree this is more involved that a massive deportation of over 11 million? how exactly do you propose deporting over 11 million illegals?


1,526 posted on 05/15/2006 6:15:53 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: citizen
What are you doing here. Don't you know you must say something nasty and negative to belong!

/s/

1,527 posted on 05/15/2006 6:15:56 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: jess35
If your employees cost you then your business model could use some tweaking.
1,528 posted on 05/15/2006 6:15:58 PM PDT by mthom
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To: humblegunner

Politics makes for strange bedfellows.


1,529 posted on 05/15/2006 6:16:07 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: HHKrepublican_2
To all Thread Hijackers, Illegal Immigration obsessers et al...

You sound like a democrat...They talk the same way you do...But anyway, do you have any idea how many 'illegal immigration obsessors' are on FR??? Do you have any idea how many illegal immigration obsessors are out in the real world???

The big question is how many are going to fall again for the "we may be a pile of rotten stinkin' garbage, but we're on top of the pile...The dems stink even worse so you better vote for us" Party...

I think you're in for a shocker...

1,530 posted on 05/15/2006 6:16:07 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: altura

That is BS though. Our poor poor "confused" employers my ass.

It's not the lack of a fracking ID card with biometrics that is why they are hiring illegals. It's a joke. They are doing it because they don't want to pay Americans an American wage. Period.


1,531 posted on 05/15/2006 6:16:09 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: oldfart

I notice you have no comment for Durbin.

You are a hindrance to your own cause.


1,532 posted on 05/15/2006 6:16:11 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: Hodar
First, we severely fine any and all business hiring illegals. Bankruptcy is the intent.

Oh yeah, we should really try to destroy American business.

Hell, we'll be in the great depression again, but at least those damn illegals won't be working either.

Brilliant.

1,533 posted on 05/15/2006 6:16:14 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: TigersEye

The President IMO will cost the party dearly with his circus views on illegals.


1,534 posted on 05/15/2006 6:16:41 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: TexasPatriot8

My guess is that democrats are not going support Amnesty untill after the election. Then they will go full tilt for it. They are evil that way.


1,535 posted on 05/15/2006 6:16:49 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Texasforever

A "pretense"? I'm just asking a question to lawdude who posted on 05/15/2006 5:50:58 PM PDT: "This is not the final solution (that is 100% effective) but if we can reduce the presence to 10%, we are millions ahead."


1,536 posted on 05/15/2006 6:16:55 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: All
M. Malkin is carving Oreilly a new orifice on immigration, this lady speaks well for all of us!
1,537 posted on 05/15/2006 6:16:59 PM PDT by armchairadmiral
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To: TexasPatriot8
Somebody has to have the sustained political will to check those cards, which neither party has. Bush was playing to the "base" for Nov-06, that's all. The focus fades after that, including the compliance. Which party is going to want to be visible "being racist" and prosecuting something they haven't prosecuted for deacdes: the Law. Trust that future politicans will have spine when no-one pastward ever has? That's the point.

Build the wall first. Then deal with violations. But build the wall high and wide.

1,538 posted on 05/15/2006 6:17:08 PM PDT by kcar
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To: Dog Gone; Jimbaugh
I will not waist my time and money.

Least of all on a spell checker, apparently...

1,539 posted on 05/15/2006 6:17:12 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Czar
A complete and total disaster.

I'll disagree with you there. The results of the plan outlined in the speech will be a complete and total disaster. But, the speech itself was well crafted and it is bound to fool a large number of people into buying into President Bush's plan. He changed the tone of what he said and repackaged a few things. It was calculated to finesse his amnesty scheme and it may be successful in doing just that.

1,540 posted on 05/15/2006 6:17:28 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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