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Tancredo Rips Government’s Spying of Minutemen
tancredo.house.gov ^ | 05/09/2006 | Will Adams

Posted on 05/09/2006 12:40:29 PM PDT by NapkinUser

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Congressmen Tom Tancredo (R-CO) decried a recently-disclosed U.S. Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) practice of tipping off the Mexican military to the location of Minutemen volunteers. According to a story in this morning’s Inland Daily Bulletin, CBP notifies the Mexican government of when and where the Minutemen are planning to monitor the border and if violence is used by the Minutemen against illegal aliens. There has not been one verified instance of Minutemen volunteers using violence against illegal aliens.

“The Mexican military doesn’t exactly have a ‘good government’ reputation. The Border Patrol has documented more than two hundred incursions into the U.S by the Mexican military, and Texas sheriffs even apprehended Mexican government vehicles that were used to ferry drug runners across the border. By tipping off Mexico’s military to the Minutemen’s location, the U.S. government is asking for trouble,” said Tancredo.

“Heavily-armed military officials stationed only yards from civilians are at least intimidating. I can only surmise that the Border Patrol bureaucrats’ spying is meant to have a chilling effect on the Minutemen’s recruitment of more volunteers,” said Tancredo.

“The Minutemen haven’t been accused of breaking the law. Quite the contrary—they have gone out of their way to aid law enforcement and ensure the safety of our border. The U.S. government has no grounds upon which to stifle the Minutemen’s constitutional right to organize,” Tancredo concluded. “I want to know the legal basis for CBP informing a foreign government of the activities of private citizens who are obeying the law.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; border; borderlist; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; invasionusa; loudobbs; minutemanproject; minutemen; mmp; openborders; saracarter; tancredo; tomtancredo; treason
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To: Arizona Carolyn


San Bernardino County has been a ghetto for generations. It doesn't help when greedy developers take a couple of acres and turn it into a rabbit warren. No one is buying, and so it turns into HUD. Shoddy construction, 3 families living in each house? No way in hell would I be passing out Avon brochures.


701 posted on 05/10/2006 1:10:04 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: stopem; La Enchiladita

I've noticed that, too... starting to look too much like our own version of the CW here on FR; hope this isn't a sign of the times for the country.


702 posted on 05/10/2006 1:19:16 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: CWOJackson
You need to be parsed:

Ah, the Mexican "Government"...yes, beyond reproach. LOL!

Who said they were beyond "reproach"? What was asked, was why would they lie or exaggerate about this on their official Secretary of Exterior Relations web site?

Coming from people who dislike the government

"The government"? What is that supposed to mean? You do recognize which web site you are on, don't you? We favor small, constitutional government which primarily limits itself to...and fulfills its primary constitutional duty of defending the Republic.

...and [people who dislike] Mexico...again, how ironic.

Disliking Mexico....? You smear with a pretty broad brush here. Who are you talking about precisely? What "Mexico" are you talking about? It's people? It's food? It's water? Or perhaps more apropos...It's government? Its policies? Its course of conduct and attitudes? It's Illegal ex-patriates?

If an American objects to anything about Mexico's own antagonistic anti-U.S. stances is that 'disliking' Mexico?

And even if some critics thereby did earn the opprobium of 'disliking' Mexico...how would that effect their legitimacy? And doesn't the risk of bias cut both ways? E.g., isn't it just as dubious to the credibility of statements made by an ardently P.C. Mexiphilic U.S. political establishment?

703 posted on 05/10/2006 1:33:38 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Paul Ross
"What was asked, was why would they lie or exaggerate about this on their official Secretary of Exterior Relations web site?"

Why would the U.S. government lie about this?

704 posted on 05/10/2006 1:35:57 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Why would the U.S. government lie about this?

Are their lips moving?

It's already explicit that they contradicted themselves. Which is the real story?

As for motive...that is clear. It's an unpopular position if true. Hence one element of damage control technique is outright stone-wall denial. Remember Bubba's "I did not have sex with that woman!"? Maintained right up until the blue-stained dress appeared and the DNA sample was matched...

We have a pattern of "denial behavior" on the Border and Illegals issues by some high-ups in this administration that prompts me to find this more credible than not. Look no further than the Amnesty proposals which they deny are amnesty. Recall how fast the aspersions and smears against the MM were deployed in their formative days...when they were called "vigilantes".

705 posted on 05/10/2006 2:01:25 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Paul Ross

Of course...we trust the Mexican government and our government is evil. Some new gold standard you folks have there.


706 posted on 05/10/2006 2:06:23 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: La Enchiladita
If the illegal invasion were not such a major issue for the United States at this time, if the border were sealed and illegals deported according to law, the Minutemen would not exist and we would be going about other important business in this Nation.

I think SV makes six banneees. Just on this thread! I find this incredible on a site that used to pride itself on open discussion and fairness.

God bless our Border Patrol agents and the Minutemen who support them. May He keep them safe from the criminals and terrorists, because their own government sure won't.

707 posted on 05/10/2006 2:17:44 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 9 May 2006

CONTACT: Tim Bueler (530) 401-3285 www.MinutemanProject.com

Minutemen Prepare to Rally on Washington, D.C.

Minutemen Remain Last Defense Against Amnesty

Los Angeles, CA - Following successful rallies across the Southwestern
United States and in President Bush‘s hometown of Crawford, TX, the
Minuteman Caravan is now preparing for its final push through the South
and into Washington, D.C.

The caravan was organized to drive home the point to political leaders
that the American people are fed up with their lack of response to the
most important issue in protecting our nation ‘s sovereignty and to
bring attention to the amnesty bills currently being discussed in
Congress.

“Amnesty for illegal aliens is coming,” warned Minuteman Project
Founder Jim Gilchrist, “if the politicians have their way. It is only the
Minutemen and concerned Americans across the nation who can still block
such a dangerous policy. The President and Congress are being put on
notice: We will not stand idly by while our laws are violated, our borders
are breached and our sovereignty is threatened.”

Details on the event are as follows:

Topic: Rally to Stop the Illegal Alien “Guest Worker” Amnesty Program

Date: Friday, May 12, 2006

Time: 11:00 AM ? 3:00 PM

Location: Upper Senate Park, Washington D.C.

Also participating will be:

Jerome Corsi, Harvard Ph.D co-author of the #1 New York Times
bestseller “Unfit for Command”;
Minuteman Project Executive Director Steve Eichler J.D.;
Barbara Coe, co-author of Proposition 187 and the President of
California Coalition for Immigration Reform;
John Clark of the American Immigration Control Foundation;
Minuteman group leaders and members from across the country as well as
invited guests from the U.S Congress.



708 posted on 05/10/2006 2:23:09 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: CWOJackson
Of course...we trust the Mexican government and our government is evil. Some new gold standard you folks have there.

Who says anyone trusts the Mexican government? It's a government pursuing its self interest like any other. Except ours. And our government is contradicting itself.

709 posted on 05/10/2006 2:47:40 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Paul Ross
LOL! I think I'll believe the government...they contradict themselves less then their critics...and are far more believable.
710 posted on 05/10/2006 3:28:41 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: La Enchiladita

her acct doesn't show this


711 posted on 05/10/2006 4:45:33 PM PDT by JustPiper (So say your fond farewells! Mecha means fuse, and it is lit !)
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To: NapkinUser

TT For President!


712 posted on 05/10/2006 4:46:29 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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To: JustPiper

Her account says banned or suspended .... has since sometime yesterday afternoon.


713 posted on 05/10/2006 4:49:17 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


714 posted on 05/10/2006 5:23:30 PM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: lormand

I need to write a letter. This makes me angry.


715 posted on 05/10/2006 5:25:10 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: fizziwig

And there you have it.... there are ONLY two sides to the whole issue. Anyone claiming to be in the "middle" is just playing politics.

Much like the WOT - you are either FOR criminals walking freely among us, immune to the law, or you are for the rule of law.

Our president has chosen to come down very solidly AGAINST his own country on this issue. For that, I cannot excuse him or defend him. IN fact, GW's position on immigration totally undermines the WOT, and makes it a laughing stock.

If/When the RATs win back the House, Senate, and/or Whitehouse, we can place the blame squarely on the shoulders of our beloved spineless Republican legislators and our POTUS.

America - land of liberty - How I will miss you when you are gone. Far too many patriots paid for you with their life, blood, families, and hearts. Yet today's politicans and liberals discard you like yesterday's garbage. Those who love who you truly are/were have slept far too long, have kept their mouth shut far too long, have capitulated far too many times. It's now do-or-die time. We either stand for you and what you represent, or we crawl under a rock and pretend that nothing ever happend - and let you fall away into oblivion....


716 posted on 05/10/2006 8:03:36 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan and a Cancer on Society)
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To: TheBattman

Well said Battman. It is time to choose sides. The side I choose does not include open borders and globalism. So no matter what good Bush has done in office, and I voted for him twice, he is not on my side in this most important issue of the future of the sovereignty of the U.S.


717 posted on 05/10/2006 8:28:58 PM PDT by fizziwig (Bushbotulism is a terrible thing to have....please get help..)
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To: zook
"The government is helping a FOREIGN government keep an eye on them ..BIG DIFFERENCE" Mexico is a friend of the US. If there were some quasi-police unit running up and down on Mexico's side, I'd hope they'd tip us off, too.

Well ladies and gentlemen, once again the bar has been lowered. It would appear that the supporters of this administration are actually willing to tolerate pretty much anything and not withdraw that support.
718 posted on 05/10/2006 9:49:58 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: joesnuffy

He observed that these people felt that if the Leftist radicals really acted up that would only make McCarthy look more reasonable and hence advance his chances for election. Kunen described these people as "the left wing of the ruling class." And he noted: "We were also offered Esso (Rockefeller) money. They want us to make a lot of radical commotion so they can look more in the center as they move to the left." So the 60s Leftists got Rockefeller money and now the illegal immigrant groups who wish to sever the Southwest from the rest of the country are getting Rockefeller funding also. Something smells and it's not Swiss cheese!
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I'm glad some others are learning such facts. Thanks.


719 posted on 05/10/2006 10:12:07 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: B4Ranch

The United States, not to be outdone, is sending two million replacement Mexicans.
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LOL. Cute.


720 posted on 05/10/2006 10:34:56 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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