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U.S. tipping Mexico to Minuteman patrols (telling the Mexican government)
Daily Bulletin ^ | 5/9/2006 | Sara A Carter

Posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:25 AM PDT by IrishMike

While Minuteman civilian patrols are keeping an eye out for illegal border crossers, the U.S. Border Patrol is keeping an eye out for Minutemen -- and telling the Mexican government where they are. According to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the U.S. Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government as to the location of Minutemen and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegal immigrants -- and if and when violence is used against border crossers.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said Monday.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements -- that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

Minuteman members were not so sanguine about the arrangement, however, saying that reporting their location to Mexican officials nullifies their effectiveness along the border and could endanger their lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. "It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; falsestory; getaclue; gwot; illegalimmigration; illegals; incorrectstory; loudobbs; mexicans; mexico; minutemanproject; minutemen; moonbatbarking; nationalsecurity; notaccurate; nutcases; saraacarter; saracarter; wot
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To: cva66snipe
I will vote for Minutemen though. At least they have the convictions to stand for something other than their own stock market portfolio.

You're speaking for millions of American citizens who are absolutely disgusted with the OBL and their cronies in Washington. America is becoming a rudderless ship under this administration.

1,482 posted on 05/09/2006 9:30:34 PM PDT by janetgreen (THE WHITE HOUSE FIDDLES WHILE AMERICA IS INVADED!)
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To: nicmarlo

And the Mexican Government seems very interested in somehow penalizing the Minutemen.

~More than them


1,483 posted on 05/09/2006 9:30:49 PM PDT by JustPiper (So say your fond farewells! Mecha means fuse, and it is lit !)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Good questions. I haven't been following the Mexican elections in the news so I'm not sure what's happening there in any detail. Regarding oil supplies, oil is easily shipped from one country to another so it trades in a world market and there is no way to cut off supplies to any one country except to produce less. That would hurt Mexico so Mexico probably won't cut their production. If they try to sell oil to another country (e.g. France, Germany, Japan, S. Korea) instead of to us, we can just buy the oil immediately from that third country and have the 3rd country's tanker stop in Houston or Los Angeles and unload the oil on its way home.


1,484 posted on 05/09/2006 9:30:57 PM PDT by defenderSD (¤¤ Wishing, hoping, and praying that Saddam will not nuke us is not a national security policy.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Yes. The poll tax, in the sense of a discriminatory tax which was a pre-condition of the exercise of the right to vote, emerged in some U.S. states between the mid-19th to mid-20th centuries. After the right to vote was extended to all races by the enactment of the 15th Amendment, many Southern states enacted poll tax laws which often included a grandfather clause that allowed any adult male whose father or grandfather had voted to vote without paying the tax. These laws achieved the desired effect of disenfranchising African and Native Americans, as well as whites of non-British descent.

The 24th Amendment, ratified in 1964, outlawed the use of this tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition in voting in Federal elections. The 1966 Supreme Court case Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections extended this explicit enactment as a matter of judicial interpretation of a more general provision, ruling that the imposition of a poll tax in state elections violated the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution. (This is one of several quizzical rulings that rely on the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment rather than the more direct provision of the 15th.)

I sispect the Arizona law will be similarly challenged in Court.

1,485 posted on 05/09/2006 9:30:58 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: wardaddy

Where have you been?!


1,486 posted on 05/09/2006 9:31:31 PM PDT by JustPiper (So say your fond farewells! Mecha means fuse, and it is lit !)
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To: Peach
immigration wasn't even on my list of 100 things to be concerned about. Until the media started talking about it 24/7.

That's right. That's what you said. Sounds like saying Bush started the WoT. IOWs it's ridiculous. Sorry for not making myself plainer the first time.

1,487 posted on 05/09/2006 9:31:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (How much treason is overlookable treason?)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Once I started reading about it, Carolyn, after the media started making noise about it, I came to understand that it's a problem for a lot of you in border states.

What I don't get is why there are hardly any politicians, on either side of the aisle, who are willing to tackle the problem.

And what I absolutely condemn are those freepers who say this will make them vote third party. That's the ticket - vote for someone who has no intention or ability to help with a problem. LOL


1,488 posted on 05/09/2006 9:32:06 PM PDT by Peach
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To: nicmarlo

Questioning the timing is the mark of an alert FReeper.

Of course, the article has negative repercussions on the Minutemen also, in terms of suspicions, allegations, etc. Yeah, just throw the article out there, Sara, and see what happens ...

*crickets* waiting to hear from the author *crickets*


1,489 posted on 05/09/2006 9:32:42 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: clawrence3; Americanwolf; kstewskis; nicmarlo
Are you denying there are, in fact and in law, illegal aliens in this country who have violated no other other?

Yes I am. Because if they have entered this country illegally then they are either a) not paying taxes , b) using false identification to obtain employment or services, or c) are engaged in some form of criminal activity.

Now if you asked do I believe there are people here illegally who have good intentions and would like to stay legally I would answer yes. But to get down to that group and "expel" the others you first have to seal the border and then start deporting those that come in contact with the law.AWB

1,490 posted on 05/09/2006 9:33:09 PM PDT by Americanwolfsbrother (Minutemen - Building the fence YOUR government refuses to build.)
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To: JustPiper

yes, of course!


1,491 posted on 05/09/2006 9:33:36 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: HipShot

1,492 posted on 05/09/2006 9:33:37 PM PDT by JustPiper (So say your fond farewells! Mecha means fuse, and it is lit !)
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To: defenderSD

At what price? (would be buy).


1,493 posted on 05/09/2006 9:33:37 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: TigersEye

I'll just put yours down for the most asinine post of the evening.


1,494 posted on 05/09/2006 9:33:37 PM PDT by Peach
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To: wardaddy

Check out the link - interior deportations are included in that number.


1,495 posted on 05/09/2006 9:33:59 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: wardaddy

Check out the link - interior deportations are included in that number.


1,496 posted on 05/09/2006 9:34:00 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: JustPiper

I just opened a new Wash and have been slaving.


1,497 posted on 05/09/2006 9:36:26 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am buying Shelby Steele's new book: White Guilt)
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To: clawrence3
This has already been to the 9th circuit and they actually ruled our prop 200 -- including showing ID to vote -- is legally binding... shocked me since I was certain the 9th would shoot it down.

Prop 200 was very carefully written and even with McCain coming out against it all over the state, it passed with a large majority. I understand Colorado is working on getting their own proposition on the ballot based on our initiative.

1,498 posted on 05/09/2006 9:36:33 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Americanwolfsbrother

Some illegal aliens pay taxes - some go to school so they don't have jobs or have to pay taxes.


1,499 posted on 05/09/2006 9:37:38 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: budwiesest
"My dad didn't fight WWII so we could turn this country over to communists or globalists."

I share your same sentiment. With kudos to my grandfather, great-grandfather and father-in-law for their courageous service to our country.

1,500 posted on 05/09/2006 9:37:40 PM PDT by all4one (Lawmakers, your decisions on illegal immigration will help us decide if you are re-elected)
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