Posted on 04/11/2006 3:33:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Just a reminder: Free Republic is a conservative site. We fight for conservative principles, values and causes. We defend the Constitution. We defend our borders. We defend our God-given rights. We are opposed to the liberal/socialist/Marxist agenda for America. We do not willingly give up ground to the Marxists.
It's true that the illegal immigration issue is very discouraging, and I don't know if anyone has a solution that will appeal to conservatives and yet manage to get by Democrat obstructionism, ie, a filibuster, but I don't see that as any reason to give up everything. We should not allow it to rip us apart and destroy the movement. We fight on.
We hold the majority. We continue working as hard as we possibly can to elect as many conservatives as we possibly can. We build a conservative majority that can overcome the Democrats and the RINOs. We do not willingly give up any seats to Democrats. We add seats. Preferably, conservative seats.
I would also like to remind everyone, that Free Republic does not condone racism and does not advocate violence. We exercise our first amendment rights to free speech and peaceable assembly. We do not condemn people because of their race, religion, ethnicity, skin color, etc. We do not advocate civil war, anarchy, or an overthrow of the government. We do not advocate shooting illegals or mining the borders. We do not appreciate people coming across our borders illegally, but as conservatives, we do not issue racial epithets or threaten them with violence or bodily harm.
And, yes, we are at war. And we do support our troops and their mission. We also respect our commander-in-chief and are mindful that when people disrespect him, it hurts troop morale. We do not appreciate the mainstream media's attempts to destroy America's will to fight and we do not do anything to assist the Democrats and their accomplices in the media in their treasonous mission of undermining the war effort by providing aid and comfort to the enemy.
And despite our dissatisfaction and disappointments in regards to the illegal immigration issue, we recognize that it is not the last issue on earth and there are plenty of other reasons not to allow the Marxist Democrats to retake power.
I'll list a few issues (by no means and exhaustive list) that will be adversely affected by Marxist/Democrats in power:
Islamofascism/terrorism
National Security/Defense
The United Nations (as in their control over us)
The Supreme Court
The federal judiciary
The legislative agenda
The right to life
Marriage between one man, one woman
The family
Education
Health care
Private property
Taxation
Oil/energy
The right to keep and bear arms
The right to freedom of religion
The right to self-governance
All of our God-given rights
The Constitution
The Republic
Liberty itself
Do not get so discouraged that we give it all up. It could take generations to get it back. If ever.
"Securing the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity" is our duty.
I suggest everyone vote -- or not vote -- based solely on candidates and issues, not by party. The founders' original intent.
Added by 'airborne':
A revolutionary concept! ;^)
Let me add that one might say "Change the party, don't leave the party". Well, yes, if possible; it was tried last year. The GOP had a business meeting - a convention? - part of which was to consider the Party platform. The article I read said the WH, led by pressure from the Vice-President, defeated measures calling for strict border security, enforcement of residency laws in the interior and penalizing the employers using the Illegal workforce above American workers.
If those planks were in the GOP platform, we could all support the GOP RE border security/Immigration without having to make excuses for them or basically ignoring the party position altogether.
If those planks were in the GOP platform, there would be no need to use the popular two-party-system intimidation tactic "If you do/don't do this or that then you'll elect Hillary or defeat Republicans or...", we hear that line every day here.
Until we have many more politicians of integrity, puting doing the right thing above getting re-elected, I don't see much hope. Considering immigration, politicians willing to do just that all too frequently get either laughed at or screamed at here on FR, which of course discourages other pols from voting their conscience on the issues.
Back to work...
get on the Senate, they have the ball in their court.
See post 458. I'm not sure there is hope for the Senate.
Sorry, but Bush needs to lead here against amnesty. That would shift the filibuster to the Dems, not the GOP. As it is now, the conservative Senators have to hold the line against RINOs and Democrats on amnesty precisely because Bush is pro-amnesty.
And, once again, impeachments start in the House. If Bush doesn't want to be impeached by a Dem majority in 2007, he'd better stand with the GOP House members on immigration.
right keep it to yourself and those who want it hear it. You assume way too much of Conservative America. Way to much.
Just a reminder: Free Republic is a conservative site
Posted on 04/11/2006 3:33:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Had I not been able to read I would not have been able to write. My statement stands.
Thanks for that great comment.
And despite our dissatisfaction and disappointments in regards to the illegal immigration issue, we recognize that it is not the last issue on earth
Great wisdom in that comment also!
Quite the contrary I agree with Jim's point totally. And disagree with yours. If petulence is a point.
When it comes to science and the Bible, it can be dangerous to assume one understands enough of either to know if they are truly in conflict.
The Earth does go around the Sun. And yet people used to be excommunicated for believing that.
I'd say the theologians didn't understand the Bible.
After all, how do you explain the universe in all its complexity and wonder to a primitive people when they haven't the educational background to understand phenomena or the vocabulary to describe phenomena.
Christ said, "The Kingdom of Heaven is like a mustard seed," among many other parables. Does that mean the Kingdom of Heaven is a millimeter across?
One of the central tenents of the Christian faith is to share that faith with other people. If someone then states that they do not wish "to hear it," it is polite to stop sharing with that person. To call such people of faith "leeches" is absurd and ignorant.
You assume way too much of Conservative America. Way to much.
I have no idea what that means.
To quote Mick, you can't always get what you want.
A lot of Freepers toss around the label "RINO", and constantly remind the rest of us that not all Republicans are conservatives. Yet, those same people (and I'll have to include my only disagreement with Jim on this point) claim that "we" are a majority.
But which "we" has that majority? The "we" who has the majority are Republicans, but as you guys remind us, they're not all conservatives. Conservatives do not have a majority in Congress.
The reality is that on a lot of issues, the conservative point of view simply doesn't have the votes. And if we just take our ball and go home every time we don't get exactly what we want, we're going to weaken our ability to get what we want on other issues.
The reason to stick with the GOP is that it is the best avenue to get conservative voices in government. Yes, there are a lot of Republicans who aren't conservatives. But if conservatives don't have the votes within the Republican party to nominate and elect a conservative, then by what logic can they get the votes among voters at large? It's a lot easier to win a primary than a general election.
Healthy People 2010 is an NGO funded effort that has been partnering with our government entities, companies and associations to promote the initiatives.
Exactly. the Pseudo Conservatives are only proving what they are with their continueous Bush bashing as if their
are part of a cult.
I and other Freepers along with Protest Warriors counter
the code pinkos once a month near the Navy Hospital and
we counter other anti war rallies.
Sunday I was part of a counter rally at the 50,000 Mexican march and rally here in San Diego.
It is interesting, I don't see the Bush bashers joining in
with these rallies supporting the military and this Country..
Jim, I appreciate you clarifying the purpose of this site as one of fighting for and defending "conservative" values. As you well know being a GOP'er and being conservative is not necessarily synonymous these days. The gap is unfortunately widening every day by those who vote for GOP candidates regardless of what they stand for, because for them winning at any cost is the only thing that matters.
That (win at any cost) mentality is what is leading to the demise of the GOP party as the party of conservative values. As long as we vote GOP to "win at any cost", then we are not following your second statement, i.e. we are not fighting for conservative principles, values, and causes. We are simply voting for the lesser evil. We are choosing to die by a thousand cuts rather than by a dagger in the chest.
Yes, we should do everything in our power to keep the GOP party as the representative party of "conservative values". That must be our prime directive. However, the reality of it is if we keep electing the CRINO's (Conservative Republicans In Name Only) that are so prevalent in our elected offices today for the sole purpose of denying the sorrier socialist-democrats from winning the office, then we are not voting to fight for keeping conservative principles, values, and causes. We are merely voting to defend against something that is worse than CRINO's. If we continue to allow the GOP party to sink further into the CRINO abyss, then in 20-30 years (if the good Lord lets this nation remain intact and free) the CRINO's of then will make the socialist-democrats of today appear conservative by today's standards. Just look back 40-50 years ago for a prime example of yesterday's democrat versus today's CRINO.
This type of voting (win at any cost) is antithetical to your statement of purpose for this great website. Winning at any cost is unprincipled, and totally lacks the moral value for which we conservatives support. It totally upsets me that yellow dog voters no longer just reside the party of jackasses. If we keep voting for the party (at any cost) and not for the principles, if we do not stand up and DEMAND GOP candidates that support the conservative values and causes, then we will reap what we have sown, and it won't be good.
Sorry for the soapbox. Many thanks for providing such a forum so that we can discuss and debate these ideals and principles. May the good Lord protect and keep you safe and well. - OB1
You mean charitable organizations have been trying to improve health care?
And why is that a problem?
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..Free Republic = CLARITY..
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Evolutionists who post to FR are the opportunists leeching off the freedoms and blessings afforded by the application of conservative principle
and that is pure crap
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