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Neanderthals Were Not Stupid, Just A Bit Anti-Social
Scotsman ^ | 4-10-2006 | Ian Johnson

Posted on 04/10/2006 2:45:19 PM PDT by blam

Neanderthals were not stupid, just a bit anti-social

IAN JOHNSTON
SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT

"CRUDE, boorish and slow- witted" - even dictionaries give Neanderthals a hard time. But our prehistoric cousins were in reality just as smart as we are and did not die out as a result of a lack of brain power, according to a new archaeological study.

Until now, the leading theory of why the Neanderthals disappeared has been that a lack of intelligence meant they were less efficient hunters.

But a team of US archaeologists believe they met their evolutionary end because of a failure to maintain social links with other groups, unlike modern humans, who travelled widely, making the friends who would help them during hard times.

Working in the Caucasus region of modern-day Georgia, the scientists discovered evidence of highly skilled hunting behaviour by the Neanderthals that required an understanding of yearly animal migration patterns and the planning of traps to catch them.

But they also found there was a crucial difference between Neanderthals and homo sapiens. The Neanderthals tended to be anti-social, staying in small hunter-gatherer groups, while the sapiens were "routinely" travelling distances of 60 miles and meeting other groups.

This meant that if an area became hunted out or a more powerful rival took over, the Neanderthals had no-one to turn to while the modern humans did.

Dr Dan Adler, of Connecticut University, who led the study, which appeared in the journal Current Anthropology, said: "Any individual Neanderthal, I don't imagine, knew more than 20, 30 or 50 people. That's by virtue of the fact they didn't get around as much. Maybe they didn't want to. Modern humans seem to get around a lot. They were routinely covering distances of at least 100km.

"If you find yourself in an area where the resources just aren't there any more - it's a bad season or you have killed all the game - you need to move into another territory where other people are. If you don't know them the chances are they are not going to like that. Modern humans would have known these people."

Neanderthals seem to have had little interest in their appearance, compared to modern humans, a sign that group identity was not something they considered to be important.

"We have no indication that Neanderthals really paid much attention to who other people were and they didn't try to signal to other people who they were," Dr Adler said.

"Modern humans were obsessed with this. They were spending a lot of time and energy on how they looked. They cared more about how they looked and were more style conscious."

However, this lack of fashion sense should not reflect badly on their intelligence, Dr Adler said.

"It's fairly clear that Neanderthals were pretty smart. They could hunt just as well [as modern humans] and they had expert knowledge about the environment," he said.

"Put you and a Neanderthal in the woods and the latter would probably survive a lot longer.

"It's within the social realm where modern humans have an advantage. I think they knew more people and lived a richer life in terms of cultural contact than the Neanderthals did. But they were both smart."


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To: KarlInOhio

I would think more along the lines of flags, uniforms, crowns, and parades.

That is the typical way of representing organized social groups, and rank within ythe group.


41 posted on 04/10/2006 4:09:18 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: blam

The article sounds like a whole lot of baseless speculation.

I will do some of my own: after 400,000 years in a cold climate, I bet they had pelts like snow monkeys.

Were they the ogres (who lived under bridges) in norse mythology?


42 posted on 04/10/2006 4:10:00 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei (One doesn't have to regret the Enlightenment to be a conservative!)
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To: KarlInOhio

Douglas Adams got it right. We are the descendents of the B arc.


43 posted on 04/10/2006 4:12:30 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: blam
Image hosted by Photobucket.com I'm just a Lawyer... your science frightens and confuses me!!!

44 posted on 04/10/2006 4:12:32 PM PDT by Chode (1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT. American Hedonist ©®)
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To: blam
80 years ago in The Everlasting Man, G.K. Chesterton argued that the earliest men were people. Science appears to be catching up.
45 posted on 04/10/2006 4:14:50 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (blah)
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To: the invisib1e hand

See the link on post # 17.


46 posted on 04/10/2006 4:18:12 PM PDT by Firefigher NC (You light ‘em, we fight ‘em!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Best laugh I've had in quite some time.


47 posted on 04/10/2006 4:55:35 PM PDT by StACase
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To: blam
There's nothing in this article that I would particularly argue with but, it's what they leave out that concerns me. Neanderthals had established themselves in Eurasia during a time when weather was tolerable. Then they suffered severely through an extended multimillennial period of severe glaciation while anatomically modern humans thrived on the beaches of India and Arabia. When the ice started thawing, humans (or CroMangons) followed the melted glacier rivers inland and if they found any surviving Neanderthals at all, their populations were decimated and sub-isolated into small genetically inbred pockets.
48 posted on 04/10/2006 5:33:53 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: the invisib1e hand

The premise is that Gieco online is so easy, even a caveman can do it. So they make that statement only to discover that cavemen still exist and they found the add offensive.

Do watch the commercial linked in post 17. It's hilarious.


49 posted on 04/10/2006 5:56:07 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: blam
Neanderthals were not stupid, just a bit anti-social

Just my kind of proto-human.

50 posted on 04/10/2006 6:00:39 PM PDT by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
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To: OB1kNOb

That guy reminds me of Billy Bob Thorton, only more hairy.


51 posted on 04/10/2006 6:01:08 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: cll
"And I don't have much of an appetite".

hands back menu, glares across the table

52 posted on 04/10/2006 6:02:32 PM PDT by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
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To: FreedomFarmer

Bloody Vikings!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5627694446211716271


53 posted on 04/10/2006 6:10:18 PM PDT by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
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To: Neanderthal

Lol!


54 posted on 04/10/2006 6:16:01 PM PDT by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
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To: Neanderthal

Well said...


55 posted on 04/10/2006 6:49:35 PM PDT by null and void (We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit. - Aristotle)
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To: blam

The theory does sound logical.Who knows?


56 posted on 04/10/2006 8:28:07 PM PDT by Thombo2
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To: blam
I thought the article was well written until

"Modern humans were obsessed with this. They were spending a lot of time and energy on how they looked. They cared more about how they looked and were more style conscious."

57 posted on 04/10/2006 8:47:36 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Im not sure I like the way you said that. :)

My shadow cloak...Now thats a statement by the fashionably clueless...

58 posted on 04/10/2006 10:52:47 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

So, is evolution just a vicious cycle?


59 posted on 04/11/2006 5:15:30 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rage is the fuel that powers the islamic machine)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
So, is evolution just a vicious cycle?

It did eventually produce the Indian.

60 posted on 04/11/2006 5:25:57 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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