Posted on 04/03/2006 5:21:48 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
by Mark Finkelstein
April 3, 2006
As has been documented here before, NBC and MSNBC like to delude viewers into believing they are presenting balanced panels by pairing a partisan Democrat with Pat Buchanan. The Today show recently went so far as to mislabel Buchanan, who left the GOP to run in 2000 as the candidate of the Reform Party against George W, a "Republican strategist." See report with revealing screen shot here.
Any pretense that Buchanan is anything but a Bush administration critic more in synch with the Democrats than the GOP was stripped away on this evening's Hardball, when a Dem strategist let the cat out of the bag.
Buchanan was back, sharing the stage with Dem strategist Steve McMahon. The issue was W's paltry poll numbers, and in particular why the president doesn't get more credit for what on paper is a healthy economy. That set Buchanan off on this breathless populist riff:
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That was the same thing people asked Reagan when he called the Soviet Union the evil empire.
Only two groups of politicians, and therefore their supporters, would benefit from the fall of the Bush administration.
Democrats and McCain's clique.
With Democrats out of power for the moment, and Bush out of the way, it is folks like McCain and Lindsey and Specter that would dominate. To suggest this is a BENEFIT to conservatives and conservatism in general is laughable.
IF you are advocating such an end, you are no conservative.
We'll finally be rid of the McCainbots in Freeperland. ;^)
They are a seemingly indestructable lot aren't they? Might even survive a nuclear holocaust...
I only wish he'd change parties, but his only power derives from trashing Republicans as a "Republican". best case scenario is for him to run Independently. Folks seem so certain he's hurt the Rep candidate. I think he'd strip more from the Dem aisle than he would Rep. We don't have that many northeastern voting Reps to sacrifice, compared to the Liberal Dems that don't vote Rep but despise Cindy Sheehan. They'd settle for McCain. Replay of '92, maybe, with the lack of a Majority vote but the Reps candidate would edge out the victory.
We learn from history that we don't learn from history.
Even if we get a democrat in there. If there is still a majority of Republicans in both houses of congress then we can hope that gridlock will result in lower budgets ... or at least lower budget increases.
Pray for gridlock, because when Republicans and Democrats agree about something its probably not a very good thing for the rest of us!
Why can't we have a global economy with a national government?
Why can't we isolate ourselves a bit from the graft and corruption and socialist nonsense the rest of the world seems to love to wallow around in?
Thanks for being perceptive enough to pick up on this!
When supporting a Republican who spends my tax dollars faster than a liberal Democrat and who supports more illegals crossing the border than a member of La Raza is considered sensible, then I am glad to be labeled absurd!
We as conservatives are for ever laying into the Black Caucus for being suckered by the Democrats. Conservatives have likewise been suckered by the Republicans.
Clinton may have been (and still is) morally reprehensible and deserved impeachment, but somewhere along the way he lowered the deficit and reduced welfare.
Why can't we expect the same of Bush?
Why do we have to wait until Bush completes walks and talks like a Specter before we stop supporting him?
I'm not interested in rhetoric.
Reality IS the fall of the administration helps only Dems and McCain. It serves no benefit to conservatives. You think otherwise, then prove it...though You cannot.
1) Dems are the minority Government.
2) RINO's are battling with conservatives for control.
3) RINO's have the upper hand because they have caucused with Democrats.
4) The Republicans that ARE conservative generally caucus with THIS administration.
Ergo, loss of THIS Executive branch results in a LOSS of power amongst struggling conservatives. Who else will they caucus with? The administration is at least, most times, open. RINO's are not. Democrats are not. Barring new elections with an increased Dem majority, full power defaults to the RINO's in wake of the fall of this administration.
If you canot accept reality I cannot help you.
Quickly addressing your other "arguments".
You can EXPECT of Bush what he said he'd do. If you expect more than he promised, this is not his fault. He didn't lie nor mislead. Most politicians do. He told you this is who he was and what he'd do, vote as you will. IF you want someone that will VETO a spending bill, make the next candidate promise to do so and make sure they hold to it. I've no sympathies for anyone upset that he doesn't do what they want, when he never promised he would.
Comparing Bush to Specter is beneath requirement of an address. I guarentee Specter wouldn't have Alito and Roberts on that Court, let alone dozens of other initiatives by this W.H. copied.
By "strategery" I presume you mean to suggest I'm a partyline faithful that would set McCain upon this country because Hillary is too awful to contemplate. How little you know me. You should probably not jump to conclusions when going into a rehearsed speech.
I've already made it clear what I intend to do this fall, and it's not canvas the block in GOTV. You earn votes, you don't get them by being "not Democrats". Unless the GOP learns that, they'll be counting me out this fall. And, just so you'll know, I've battled time and again for a couple years about McCain and Will NOT support him under any circumstance. Unless it's supporting his defeat. I've stated my intent and desire for DeWine and Chafee to lose, campaigned for them to lose infact.
Lastly, I'm not certain where you get the idea you are a "we". From what I read just here you do NOT support him. Your statment would better read, "Why do you have to wait until Bush completes walks and talks like a Specter before you stop supporting him?"
In answer, it'll be a cold day in hell when I become an unprincipled coward that walks away from a principled man because I don't have the guts nor strength to fight those like yourself or withstand policy disagreements with this President. Which I have. And I've fought him, won a few and lost a few battles. As well I've fought WITH him, and ditto to the victories and losses. But I respect him, and I love the soul of this man. I pray for him at least one a day and will continue until my dying breath. I would, however, lose respect for MYSELF if I walked away from him especially now. I'll let those that make that choice live with it, I'm not aiming to make the same choice.
You have to give Pat credit for single handedly destroying the Reform Party!
Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters
He was re-elected in 2004 with those among his platforms. His proposal for amnesty, INFACT, set off a furor just as he was beginning his bid for re-election and he refused to back off of it even when cheering crowds went silent everytime he brought it up during that campaign.
It would be nice if you didn't project fiction to attempt to justify a lie.
GWB may very well be a good and honorable person too, but that doesn't make him a conservative or good for conservatism.
GWB is putting into place organizations and procedures that if turned over to the wrong hands would be anathema to conservatives. For example giving more clout to Washington in the area of education and expanding Medicare and expanding the powers of the executive branch.
Is he trying to blackmail us into keeping Republicans in office so that Democrats dare not get their hands on the reins of the beast that he has created?
Even if he campaigned on a guest worker program, he didn't campaign on an illegal worker program. I seem to remember some things he said about people being held accountable to the law. Seems like this is one pledge he wasn't able or willing to keep.
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