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1 posted on 03/29/2006 11:53:00 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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"Never before have millions of immigrants flooded across our borders, violating the law."

And that is indeed the problem.

2 posted on 03/29/2006 11:57:19 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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I think you'll like this article.

You think right. Outstanding piece.

3 posted on 03/29/2006 11:57:59 AM PST by jmc813 (I Thessalonians 5:9-11)
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Your hornets were trying to escape from someplace they did not intend to be in and died in the process. The illegals are intentionally trying to get in and stay in, come hell or high fences. True enough, some die in the process, but it is their own flaunting of the laws of our great nation that got them in trouble in the first place. Hornets are one thing, no consciousness or thought, just programmed by God. People are another. They can and do make choices for which they must take responsibility for their actions........
4 posted on 03/29/2006 11:59:47 AM PST by Red Badger (I must not fear.)
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I agree. And I like the article. Thanks.


5 posted on 03/29/2006 12:02:25 PM PST by Visalia
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I prefer to think of them as fire ants, but good analogy nonetheless.


6 posted on 03/29/2006 12:04:26 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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If illegal Hispanics get everything they demand, then legal Hispanics will go along to get along...join in with demands for special treatment, Aztlan, La Raza, whatever. Why not? What's not to like? (Just like moderate Muslims and Jihadists. Same methodology at work.) Or more simply, the creaking wheel gets the grease, and every other wheel knows it.


7 posted on 03/29/2006 12:09:10 PM PST by hershey
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The article is spot on and extremely depressing. But nothing's accomplished by denial.


8 posted on 03/29/2006 12:10:23 PM PST by hershey
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Never in the past have I felt as though the people of the United States need to stop sending our taxes to the government. The citizens have a contract with the government: you provide defense, protect against invasion and apply the rule of law, and in return you have the right to tax us to pay for these things. The United States government is in breech of this contract and it is high time to change all w-4s to 'exempt' and all 941s to zero. If you're not going to prosecute 15 million illegal aliens, you sure as hell aren't going to prosecute 250 million citizens refusing to pay your taxes. This is by far the worst, spineless and legally bankrupt Congress that has darkened the halls of the Capitol. Our country is being destroyed, the citizens don't want it to happen, and our so-called representatives are selling us down the river for potential votes. Both the Legislative and Executive branches have gotten us into the situation now, which we have an army of over 15 million people residing in our country illegally and NOTHING is being done about. Furthermore, if a Beslan or a biological or dirty nuke goes off in our country the whole lot of Congress should be hung from lampposts for not securing the borders. /rant off
9 posted on 03/29/2006 12:10:54 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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Thanks for the post. Nice job and accurate.


12 posted on 03/29/2006 12:14:58 PM PST by DocRock
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I think you'll like this article.

YES

14 posted on 03/29/2006 12:19:08 PM PST by A message
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It would probably shock many here to know that I agree with you 100%. I think where you and I might part, is on how we deal with the current situation. I think you would agree that we wont be deporting the 11-13 million people that are already here. So what then? It appears to me that the best thing we can do, is to get these people registered and taxed under the THREAT of deportation after a period of legal employment. The alternative is just more of the same in one case, but in the worse case, we lose the Republican majority and allow Democrats to open the flood gates, handing a ballot to each person as they cross the border, pre-filled with Democrat selections.

This is where we must be careful, and not be governed by our passions. We have to think about the short-and-long term ramifications of our actions. Losing the majority is the absolute worst thing that can happen, because not only do you lose this issue, you lose EVERY issue. Especially when we are just ONE NAME AWAY on the Supreme Court from turning the clock back on 45 years of Liberal policies.

Of course, we must enforce the borders, but not by turning people who have been here 5-10-20 years into felons. I cant think of an easier way to send Republicans back into the dark ages.

Great article, as usual.

15 posted on 03/29/2006 12:19:22 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache, so if mere words can anger you, it means you can be controlled with little effort.)
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"American civilization is dying before our eyes"

That is so chicken sh*t; What is dying is liberalism- that is why it is so loud.

The problem is in the open and is on everyones' tongue. There are 300 million Americans. Mexico is what has to change. The Mexican government has to begin taking responsibility for its citizens and should be forced.

American Businesses have to be held respobsible. If their are no jobs for illegals their own families will force them home.

We have a lot of power to take control. Let the losers scream. At least we know where and who they are.


16 posted on 03/29/2006 12:21:25 PM PST by Porterville (Sure are a lot of these few Muslim Extremist Fanatics)
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A nation which cannot control its borders, cannot control its future.

People will take the easy path. Always.

Right now, it is easier for these immigrants to be illegal than legal, and so that's what they do. Therefore the solution is to reverse this, and make it easier to be legal than illegal.

It can be done by draconian efforts on the border. Or by making legality very easy. Or any combination of the two, so long as the result is that it's easier to be legal than illegal.

Simply shutting down the border and throwing 10 million people out of the country just isn't in the cards. The political class just doesn't have the heart to do it. We can't even get politicians to "promise" they'll send illegals home. And if a politician won't even promise something, then you know good and well they won't do it.

Since we're at least stuck with the illegals we have, then we'd best stop beating each other up and instead beat up on the liberals so we can assimilate those illegals that are here and make "Americans" out of them.

Everyone should read the quote from Teddy Roosevelt on that subject that's in a couple of threads yesterday and today.

23 posted on 03/29/2006 12:31:05 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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24 posted on 03/29/2006 12:31:25 PM PST by fishtank
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I think that we need to reject once and for all this "nation of immigrants" slogan. It was not all the immigrants who built this nation: it was the pioneers. The pioneers made this a country worth reaching for the later arrivals.

Everyone would react with distaste if someone demanded special rights for having had ancestors on the Mayflower. In the same way, we should react with distaste and scorn when new arrivals try to take credit for things that earlier, completely unrelated immigrants might have accomplished. Coming here illegally and mowing lawns is not building the country.

As for the politicians who allowed this to happen, it includes some of our very favorites. I am thinking in particular of Ronald Reagan, who allowed through the first amnesty, when anyone knows that one amnesty always leads to another, and another, and another.

Good people can be misled by sentimentality. It is a fatal mistake.


26 posted on 03/29/2006 12:32:47 PM PST by docbnj
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bttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Required reading for all FReepers and lovers of justice and the USA anywhere and everywhere.


30 posted on 03/29/2006 12:35:22 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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“...we are a nation of immigrants.” That’s true."

No, actually it isn't. We are not a "nation of immigrants." This is both a factual error and a warm-and-fuzzy non sequitur. 85% of the residents currently in the United States were born here. Sure, we are almost all descendants of immigrants. But we are not a "nation of immigrants."

31 posted on 03/29/2006 12:35:27 PM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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Well written.


34 posted on 03/29/2006 12:37:44 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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Immigration will cause the Mexican-born population in the U.S. to at least double by 2030, reaching 16 to 18 million regardless of economic conditions in Mexico.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back202.html



What happens when California, or New Mexico becomes 75% Mexicans and they choose to seceded from the union? Civil War.
39 posted on 03/29/2006 12:49:50 PM PST by TheForceOfOne (El Chupacabra spotted near U.S./Mexican border feeding on illegal immigrants. Pass it on..)
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Crosslinked:

For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:


43 posted on 03/29/2006 12:54:53 PM PST by backhoe
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