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Documents Show Saddam's WMD Frustrations
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | 3/21/06 | CHARLES J. HANLEY,

Posted on 03/21/2006 1:02:14 PM PST by libertarianPA

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Exasperated, besieged by global pressure, Saddam Hussein and top aides searched for ways in the 1990s to prove to the world they'd given up banned weapons.

"We don't have anything hidden!" the frustrated Iraqi president interjected at one meeting, transcripts show.

At another, in 1996, Saddam wondered whether U.N. inspectors would "roam Iraq for 50 years" in a pointless hunt for weapons of mass destruction. "When is this going to end?" he asked.

It ended in 2004, when U.S. experts, after an exhaustive investigation, confirmed what the men in those meetings were saying: that Iraq had eliminated its weapons of mass destruction long ago, a finding that discredited the Bush administration's stated rationale for invading Iraq in 2003 — to locate WMD.

The newly released documents are among U.S. government translations of audiotapes or Arabic-language transcripts from top-level Iraqi meetings — dating from about 1996-97 back to the period soon after the 1991 Gulf War, when the U.N. Security Council sent inspectors to disarm Iraq.

Even as the documents make clear Saddam's regime had given up banned weapons, they also attest to its continued secretiveness: A 1997 document from Iraqi intelligence instructed agencies to keep confidential files away from U.N. teams, and to remove "any forbidden equipment."

Since it's now acknowledged the Iraqis had ended the arms programs by then, the directive may have been aimed at securing stray pieces of equipment, and preserving some secrets from Iraq's 1980s work on chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

Saddam's inner circle entertained notions of reviving the programs someday, the newly released documents show. "The factories will remain in our brains," one unidentified participant told Saddam at a meeting, apparently in the early 1990s.

At the same meeting, however, Saddam, who was deposed by the U.S. invasion in 2003 and is now on trial for crimes against humanity, led a discussion about converting chemical weapons factories to beneficial uses.

When a subordinate complained that U.N. inspectors had seized equipment at the plants useful for pharmaceutical and insecticide production, Saddam jumped in, saying they had "no right" to deny the Iraqis the equipment, since "they have ascertained that we have no intention to produce in this field (chemical weapons)."

Saddam's regime extensively videotaped and audiotaped meetings and other events, both public and confidential. The dozen transcribed discussions about weapons inspections largely dealt with Iraq's diplomatic strategies for getting the Security Council to confirm it had disarmed.

Scores of Iraqi documents, seized after the 2003 invasion, are being released at the request of the U.S. House Intelligence Committee chairman, Rep. Peter Hoekstra (news, bio, voting record), who has suggested that evidence might turn up that the Iraqis hid their weapons or sent them to neighboring Syria. No such evidence has emerged.

Repeatedly in the transcripts, Saddam and his lieutenants remind each other that Iraq destroyed its chemical and biological weapons in the early 1990s, and shut down those programs and the nuclear-bomb program, which had never produced a weapon.

"We played by the rules of the game," Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz said at a session in the mid-1990s. "In 1991, our weapons were destroyed."

Amer Mohammed Rashid, a top weapons program official, told a 1996 presidential meeting he laid out the facts to the U.N. chief inspector.

"We don't have anything to hide, so we're giving you all the details," he said he told Rolf Ekeus.

In his final report in October 2004, Charles Duelfer, head of a post-invasion U.S. team of weapons hunters, concluded Iraq and the U.N. inspectors had, indeed, dismantled the nuclear program and destroyed the chemical and biological weapons stockpiles by 1992, and the Iraqis never resumed production.

Saddam's goal in the 1990s was to have the Security Council lift the economic sanctions strangling the Iraqi economy, by convincing council members Iraq had eliminated its WMD. But he was thwarted at every turn by what he and aides viewed as U.S. hard-liners blocking council action.

The inspectors "destroyed everything and said, `Iraq completed 95 percent of their commitment,'" Saddam said at one meeting. "We cooperated with the resolutions 100 percent and you all know that, and the 5 percent they claim we have not executed could take them 10 years to (verify).

"Don't think for a minute that we still have WMD," he told his deputies. "We have nothing."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apsucks; documents; iraq; iraqiintelligence; iraqwmds; mediabias; msmbias; outrightlies; saddam; saddamhussein; wmds; wot
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To: eyespysomething; libertarianPA

Maddening for sure, but not unexpected.

Ping to you, eyespysomething, in case you haven't see this yet.


21 posted on 03/21/2006 1:13:38 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: libertarianPA

I'd be curious to put this in context of who was at the meeting etc.


22 posted on 03/21/2006 1:13:41 PM PST by Homer1
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To: Paloma_55

I like that!


23 posted on 03/21/2006 1:13:54 PM PST by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: Fudd

Not those Clinton bombings! This one:

http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/desert_fox/


24 posted on 03/21/2006 1:14:05 PM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Fudd

I just read an article (wish I could find it) that said Sadaams own generals believed he had WND because that is what he wanted everyone to believe. Not which is it???? Guess these imbeciles can'r keep their lies straight.


25 posted on 03/21/2006 1:14:41 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: libertarianPA

"Hans Brix! You annoy me Hans Brix! I have no weapons! But you do not bereive me, do you Hans Brix? So you will swim with the sharks! Ha! Ha! Ha! .... so ronery."


26 posted on 03/21/2006 1:16:34 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: libertarianPA
"The newly released documents...dating from about 1996-97 back to the period soon after the 1991 Gulf War...."

This is shoddy journalism or worse to make conclusions on just these documents. There have been translations of documents from 1998 into the 2000's that provide a better picture of what Saddam was doing. Shame on you, AP!!!

27 posted on 03/21/2006 1:16:45 PM PST by MilesVeritatis (War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things...." - John Stuart Mill)
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To: MilesVeritatis

Actually, I think they did not draw a conclusion, but rather mentioned that everyone else has.


28 posted on 03/21/2006 1:18:04 PM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: My2Cents
"We played by the rules of the game," Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz said at a session in the mid-1990s. "In 1991, our weapons were destroyed."

Except for the huge caches found in 1994...

And if they complied, why are stocks that were known to exist missing? Secretly destroying them is a violation of the cease-fire agreement.

29 posted on 03/21/2006 1:19:21 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: tallhappy
Amazing. The overt distortion and agenda driven spin

Can you imagine what our country would be like if the MSM actually reported the news AS IS? Think how people would get along, how united we'd be.

30 posted on 03/21/2006 1:21:27 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: libertarianPA

OK boys, we're taping this for the news. Make it sound real. Remember: we had no WMD. Be believable, but don't make it too obvious that you know this is being taped. And if you forget your lines, just motion for the next official to continue.


31 posted on 03/21/2006 1:22:04 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Frank T
The fact that Hussein's regime had no large arsenal is irrelevant. The unknown, the *threat* of it, existed, and the regime acted as if it had something to hide.

Due to the outcome of the Gulf War, there was the right to demand open door access. Playing games with inspectors is equivalent to having WMD.

The media hasn't ever taken and won't ever take this as part of the truth of the situation. I am nauseated by this AP piece.

32 posted on 03/21/2006 1:23:22 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Wasanother
I guess while they accuse the President of cherry picking intelligence they are going to cherry pick documents?

Pithy. Great line.

33 posted on 03/21/2006 1:24:21 PM PST by AHerald ("Truth is the only ground suitable for man to stand upon" - Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: libertarianPA
Let's see if we can improve that first line:

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Exasperated, besieged by global pressure, Saddam Hussein and top aides searched for ways in the 1990s to prove to bamboozle the world (into thinking) they'd given up banned weapons.

34 posted on 03/21/2006 1:24:37 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: libertarianPA

Sounds like the press is trying to make Saddam a victim.


35 posted on 03/21/2006 1:24:40 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: libertarianPA

Man, this almost makes you feeeeeeel bad for poor old Saddam. What a load of crap.


36 posted on 03/21/2006 1:24:44 PM PST by vpintheak (What's worse, and liberal, or a know it all posing as a Conservative?)
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To: Puppage

Dare to dream


37 posted on 03/21/2006 1:24:54 PM PST by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: Chena; libertarianPA; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; Txsleuth; Peach; ...
Thanks Chena! The only thing Hussein was frustrated about was trying to get the sanctions lifted so he could start 'em up!

Documents Show Saddam's WMD Frustrations

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38 posted on 03/21/2006 1:25:32 PM PST by eyespysomething
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To: Fudd

Thanks...that's what I thought too. I see he's posted what we actually bombed in '98.


39 posted on 03/21/2006 1:25:48 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: My2Cents

So why did Bill Clinton pass the Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998?


40 posted on 03/21/2006 1:26:35 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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