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New York State legislature considering legislation requiring companies to pay employees' health care
Associated Press via syracuse.com ^ | March 7, 2006 7:07 PM | Candice Choi

Posted on 03/08/2006 11:38:34 AM PST by jmyrlefuller

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — The sales clerk at The Gap, the perfume lady at the department store and the Wal-Mart Stores Inc. cashier would all get health insurance from their employers under a bill announced Tuesday, shifting the cost of skyrocketing health care in many cases from taxpayers to big businesses.

The bill would make New York one of the first states requiring companies to provide health insurance for full-time employees.

The legislation, which has bipartisan support in the state Legislature, would apply to businesses with more than 100 employees and could affect 450,000 workers in the state.

Scores of workers at Wal-Mart and other major businesses often rely on public health programs like Medicaid, said Assemblyman Richard Gottfried, chair of the Assembly Health Committee and a sponsor of the bill.

In 2003, Wal-Mart had the most employees enrolled in the state's public health insurance programs, according to data compiled by the Working Families Party.

Federated Department Stores, The Gap and Duane Reade were also among the top 10 companies with workers enrolled in such programs.

State Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno showed some initial support for the bill, saying taxpayers shouldn't have to foot the bill for big companies.

"It's unfair, it's inequitable," Bruno said. He added, however, that he would have to make sure the requirement wouldn't hurt businesses or drive them out of New York.

Under the bill, companies would have to spend an average of at least $3 per hour for health benefits for their work force. State Sen. Nicholas Spano, a Westchester Republican and sponsor of the bill in the Legislature's upper house, compared the legislation to setting minimum-wage standards.

Critics, meanwhile, say the bill will only drive up the already high cost of doing business in New York state.

Republican Sen. James Seward, chairman the Senate Insurance Committee, said he agreed that "something has to be done," but said a government mandate might drive away business.

"The gamble is that employers won't leave or cease operating here. It's pure fantasy to assume that mandating a new cost will do no harm," said Matthew Maguire of the Business Council of New York State.

Alex Navarro, spokesman for the Working Families Party, said retailers like Wal-Mart and Victoria's Secret have no choice but to remain in the market, however.

Agricultural and manufacturing sectors would be exempt from the bill.

Maryland recently passed similar legislation requiring companies with more than 10,000 employees to provide health insurance. Only Wal-Mart is affected by that bill.

Wal-Mart, under attack for its health-care coverage for its employees, last month said it plans improvements that would include expanding the availability of its lowest cost plan and shortening the waiting periods to enroll part-time workers and their children.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: New York
KEYWORDS: business; economy; freeenterprise; healthcare; josephbruno; minimumwage; newyork; socialists; walmart
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To: Realism
This bill if passed will drive down premium costs, Medicaid costs, and employee contribution costs, if done properly.

Ha ha ha. Employee's now have "free" care provided by their employers. They will then use this "free" service to the max, driving up demand, which will do guess what to health care costs?
81 posted on 03/08/2006 1:53:11 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Mears

Yes, I'd say we are on the socialism slide for sure.


82 posted on 03/08/2006 1:54:50 PM PST by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTOL=SLAVERY)
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To: Mears
The USA that we all knew appears to be on the countdown tto socialism!

Want to completely de-socialize? Quit using insurance, pay your own bills.

83 posted on 03/08/2006 1:59:41 PM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: jmyrlefuller

Don't these politicians, and most of the public, realize that consumers pay for everything? Everybody else just passes the costs along to the consumer.



84 posted on 03/08/2006 2:03:25 PM PST by CPOSharky (They don't even like each other.)
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To: js1138
Bingo. I think NYC has the lowest proportion of employed adults of any major US city.

That just means they work off the books, for cash. In the meantime they demand full public benefits.

85 posted on 03/08/2006 2:05:20 PM PST by pierrem15
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To: TChris
The fascist and/or socialist and/or communist leanings of our elected officials

On the list...
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

86 posted on 03/08/2006 2:08:23 PM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Kozak
They will then use this "free" service to the max, driving up demand, which will do guess what to health care costs?

And people who don't have insurance use Medicaid or don't pay at all. What's the difference?

87 posted on 03/08/2006 2:10:21 PM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: dagogo redux

Nice to see some one else "gets it"


88 posted on 03/08/2006 2:12:22 PM PST by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN - Support our troops. I *LOVE* my attitude problem! Beware the Enemedia.)
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To: Mears
It's just horrible, Mears.

Like an out-of-control freight train.

89 posted on 03/08/2006 2:13:10 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: redgolum
This will be interesting in a sick way.

If the employers are made to pay the health care, will taxes be reduced by a like amount? Yeah! you can bet your as* they will

90 posted on 03/08/2006 2:24:32 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: Realism

They don't use doctors or hospitals at anywhere near the rate they will in they get "free" insurance.


91 posted on 03/08/2006 2:42:33 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: jmyrlefuller
One of two things (or both) will happen:

When will people learn that corporations WILL make a certain amount of money or they will go away and take their jobs with them. No one works for free. And not every corporation will operate as a non profit.

92 posted on 03/08/2006 2:51:55 PM PST by ConservativeBamaFan
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To: jmyrlefuller

Alan Reynolds explains:

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/alanreynolds/2006/02/23/187536.html



93 posted on 03/08/2006 2:52:13 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: jmyrlefuller

They GIVE you a job
Pay you a SALARY
Now someone wants to tell you what you have to do?
No way.


94 posted on 03/08/2006 2:55:48 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know. Go Rush!)
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To: jmyrlefuller
New York state. Enough said.

Atlas is not only shrugging, he's ROFLHisAO.

95 posted on 03/08/2006 3:06:16 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Spontaneous combustion occurs most often in Democrats)
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To: TChris
People really need to stop thinking of paid health care as a universal right.

What gets me angry is the Medicaid angle.

Abolish Medicaid and businesses would offer health insurance for their employees. Or employees would buy their own insurance. Even the low-income ones.

96 posted on 03/08/2006 3:10:54 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Spontaneous combustion occurs most often in Democrats)
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To: jmyrlefuller; Victoria Delsoul
This is the picture-perfect definition of idiocy. The state government of New York goes out and implements the most generous taxpayer-subsidized health care system in the country (and is so damn proud of it that their goofy j@ckass governor is all over the television on taxpayer-funded ads telling us how great this system is), then complains when people and employers find it so damn enticing that they actually start using it.
97 posted on 03/08/2006 4:05:38 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: WideGlide; All

What's ironic about this is that New Jersey has basically become a Third World sh!t-hole over the last few decades, but since it is right across the river from both New York City and Philadelphia it actually looks like the Garden of Eden . . . even the part along the NJ Turnpike from South Kearny down through Linden that looks like the inside of a transistor radio to people from anywhere else in the country.


98 posted on 03/08/2006 4:08:48 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: jmyrlefuller
Could they offer very high deductible (say, $5000) insurance? That would probably reduce the cost considerably, and still comply with the law.
99 posted on 03/08/2006 4:17:16 PM PST by Young Scholar
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To: The Iceman Cometh
In MA, our illustrious governor (who is probably running for President)is proposing a tax on businesses who do not offer coverage, to be equal to health insurance costs they would pay, if they provided insurance. It's crazy! Drive more companies south why don't you? This is all about covering same sex couples, and no one can deny that, especially when employers who provide health coverage for the employee only, are included. We never heard all this before judicial rule.

This is not only unconstitutional, it is pure MArxism.
100 posted on 03/08/2006 5:08:37 PM PST by gidget7 (Get GLDSEN out of our schools!!)
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