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Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban
AFP ^ | 1 March 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

US President George W. Bush signalled his opposition to a South Dakota abortion ban that forbids the procedure even in cases of rape or incest, saying he favors such exceptions.

But Bush declined to predict the outcome of any legal challenges to the legislation, which would make it illegal to terminate a pregnancy except in rare cases when it may be necessary to save the life of the mother.

"That, of course, is a state law, but my position has always been three exceptions: Rape, incest, and the life of the mother," the US president told ABC news in an interview.

Asked whether he would include "health" of the mother, Bush replied: "I said life of the mother, and health is a very vague term, but my position has been clear on that ever since I started running for office."

The bill, which recently gained final approval from South Dakota's House of Representatives, directly contradicts the precedent set in 1973 when the US Supreme Court ruled that bans on abortion violate a woman's constitutional right to privacy.

The bill grants no allowances for women who have been raped or are victims of incest. Doctors who perform abortion would be charged with a crime. It also prohibits the sale of emergency contraception and asserts that life begins at fertilization.

The governor of South Dakota has indicated he is likely to sign the bill.

A leading pro-choice advocacy group has already vowed to challenge the ban in federal court. But that seems to be exactly what many promoters of the legislation seek.

Advocates of the ban do not deny they aim much higher than South Dakota, a rural and socially conservative state, which even today has only one abortion clinic.

Instead, they are hoping the bill will offer a full frontal assault on legal abortions now that the balance of power in the Supreme Court appears to have shifted with the confirmation of conservative jurists John Roberts and Samuel Alito, both of whom are seen as pro-life.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionban; deadbabies; freepertimewarp; incest; misleadingheadline; presidentbush; rape; readthearticle; southdakota
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To: frankiep
I'm sure I'll get flamed, is that slavery and segregation did not have death as the objective, whereas abortion does.

Well said, and one of the best "comparisons" of this I've ever seen. Thank you.

681 posted on 02/28/2006 9:22:58 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: LasVegasMac

I wasn't commenting on anyone's thoughts, motivations or beliefs, but on actions.


682 posted on 02/28/2006 9:23:20 PM PST by DameAutour (I'm uniquely one of us and one of them.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

**Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban **

Why?


683 posted on 02/28/2006 9:23:56 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: LWalk18
I could never love a child of mine conceived in such a manner.

How lovely.

684 posted on 02/28/2006 9:24:39 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hitler and Stalin have nothing on Abortion)
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To: Will_Zurmacht; Aussie Dasher
I respect that argument but you are opening up a whole can of worms if you exclude stressing the innocence of the humanity..

I reckon that's a point. I just liked the conciseness of Aussie Dasher's statement. It captured the essence of the argument within the context of this thread. Nothing more.

685 posted on 02/28/2006 9:25:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Walk as if your footsteps shake the world.)
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To: cyborg
At my very least, I will always try my very best.


I am what I believe,   nothing more.

686 posted on 02/28/2006 9:25:07 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Great post. I had the same reaction as a young girl, when I learned what abortion is. I had the same reaction when I learned about rape as well. They are both evils to be eradicated.


687 posted on 02/28/2006 9:25:40 PM PST by DameAutour (I'm uniquely one of us and one of them.)
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To: clawrence3
My son's girlfriend was going to have an abortion, then changed her mind and decided to adopt the baby out. She was going to go through Catholic Social Services, pick out her baby's new parents, and have a totally open adoption where she could see the child whenever she wanted to.

She had her first ultrasound at 4-1/2 months...and decided to keep the baby.

Teegan will be 3 in August. She is gorgeous, smart, and funny.

I thank God every day that her mother changed her mind and let her daughter live.

688 posted on 02/28/2006 9:25:51 PM PST by IrishRainy
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To: oceanview

I think that is where the current court wants to go.

They will allow parental notice and even restrictions, they will allow prohibition of certain procedures, but right now an outright ban is not in the books.

I think this case was set up to fail.


689 posted on 02/28/2006 9:26:34 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: cgk
I'm very happy to have exposed my daughter to the GOOD cartoons.

She will thank you. Over and over.

690 posted on 02/28/2006 9:27:01 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: builder
How can so many people here hate him so, on this issue?

Because they're fanatics.

I'd love to see how tough they'd talk if it was their wife that got raped and was forced to carry some crack-head's baby to term.

691 posted on 02/28/2006 9:27:04 PM PST by wireman
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To: eeevil conservative; FRONTLINER; Petronski
Okay now I'm really going to bed.
692 posted on 02/28/2006 9:27:16 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

I believe Bush is only opposing the fact that no exceptions were made for rape or incest, not the ban itself.


693 posted on 02/28/2006 9:27:28 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hitler and Stalin have nothing on Abortion)
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To: DameAutour

Any woman who is raped should have the option . Aside from the exceptions , I feel that it is an easy way out for irresponsible behavior which should not be allowed.

This will be the last that I say regarding this matter , no minds will be changed here .


694 posted on 02/28/2006 9:28:12 PM PST by FRONTLINER ( Out with the RINO'S ! Defeat Mike DeWhine in the primary !)
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To: Petronski
Oh brilliant one, how could I possibly not see your true genius?
What part of I couldn't care less if someone like you is banned or not? You have not injured me in any way with your superior attitude and condescension. Quite the opposite, you have injured yourself, except in the eyes of your cheerleaders. Keep backing each other up, you need each other.
695 posted on 02/28/2006 9:28:26 PM PST by DuckFan4ever (Defeat Kulongoski in '06.)
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To: eeevil conservative
I am not for this site.

Yikes!

It should have read:

I am long not for this site.

696 posted on 02/28/2006 9:28:44 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: FRONTLINER
Would you still support the "no exception stance" if it was your wife who was raped ?

Support it? I'd demand it with all the husbandly authority I had to wield.

697 posted on 02/28/2006 9:28:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Walk as if your footsteps shake the world.)
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To: FRONTLINER

they key is not to change minds!

touch hearts... and change LIVES....

that is the key!


698 posted on 02/28/2006 9:29:11 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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To: wireman

What I'd love is if people would quit with the, "Wait'll it happens to you" argument. That's no kind of argument.

Especially since there are people on this thread who DO HAVE ACTUAL PERSONAL EXPERIENCE in this area, and the majority (perhaps all of them) are coming down on the side of not killing babies.

I don't hate Bush on this issue, as usual, he has been consistent. I really think he should have just said, "While I personally disagree with the law, I believe this a matter left to the states."


699 posted on 02/28/2006 9:29:43 PM PST by DameAutour (I'm uniquely one of us and one of them.)
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To: Petronski

LOL! I was wondering what the heck you were sayin'!

LOL!


700 posted on 02/28/2006 9:30:14 PM PST by eeevil conservative (Seeking to marry a RICH MALE CHAUVANIST PIG! Cedar Dave admits to being 2 of the 4!)
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