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George Allen Wins CPAC Straw Poll
Human Events ^ | 02/11/06 | By: Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 02/12/2006 5:39:07 AM PST by johnny7

I just heard from the marvelous Stacie Rumenap (who makes CPAC run) that Sen. George Allen (R.-Va.) won this year’s CPAC straw poll. I don’t have the complete results at this point, but as soon as I get them, I will post. Here are some details:

(Excerpt) Read more at humaneventsonline.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; allen2008; cpac; georgeallen; humanevents; mcainrino; rudyrino; strawpoll
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To: Reagan Man
The bigger question is, will traditional, mainstream conservatives vote for a liberal Republican on a national ticket, for either prez or VP?

Since we are at war, traditional, mainstream Republicans WILL vote for someone who is very strong on national defense. In a perfect conservative world, Rudi would be Reagan II on all the social issues. Since thats not the case, we'll have to deal with our personal disappointments of the a man's character. And be glad of his abilities in politics. I saw how Rudi took down the public service unions in N.Y. City, and got them under some semblance of control. His stance on national defense and ability to deal with people who directly affect me and my family is a higher priority than whatever he thinks about Brokeback Mtn., abortion (which he has no control of), or his stance on gun control while being Mayor of New York City. Rudi speech off. (your welcome)

101 posted on 02/12/2006 10:47:45 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: Pharmboy
McCain is much more than a puffed up RINO, hes is a self absorbed political aristocrat who would sell us down the river if it would enhance his political fortunes, just look at his campaign finance reform gag order if you have any doubts.
102 posted on 02/12/2006 11:01:33 AM PST by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century Democratic Party when he wrote 1984)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Allen is one of the most personable, genuine, sincere politicians out there.


If it doesn't translate over the tv, his positives will not get him the support he needs. I think someone like Warner or even Bayh might beat George Allen.

Giuliani is liberal on social issues, but he wouldn't have much effect here, except for his Supreme Court picks. It would be interesting to hear what sort of judges he would choose.

I trust Giuliani more than I trust McKean somehow . .


103 posted on 02/12/2006 11:02:13 AM PST by floridaobserver
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To: muleskinner
I'm pretty familiar with liberal NewYorkers like Rudi Giuliani. There are plenty of good conservative polticians around who would do just as good a job on defending America, as POTUS or VPOTUS, as Rudi the liberal would. If I was still living in NYCity, I'd have no problem with Rudi being Mayor. I would prefer not having a liberal one step away from the Presidency. That includes both liberal Democrats and liberal Republicans like Rudi.

>>>> .... we'll have to deal with our personal disappointments of the a man's character.

The best way I know how to deal with Rudi's character flaws, is not to vote for him on a national ticket. Btw, please dont try to make Rudi out to be a Reagan-like figure. He is not.

104 posted on 02/12/2006 11:02:46 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: kjo

I wouldn't worry about McCain.

The Conservative political junkies are the ones that mainly vote in the primaries. The same happens with the Democratic nomination and primaries.

Otherwise, McCain would have won it in 2000.


105 posted on 02/12/2006 11:03:55 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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To: floridaobserver

Just keep in mind that George Allen's priority this year is getting reelected to the Senate.

He's out there meeting and greeting the faithful. CPAC, the Super Bowl, other events. And that's generating a lot of talk.

If/When it comes to a national campaign, there won't be any reason to worry about personality. I'm confident of that.


106 posted on 02/12/2006 11:13:48 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees)
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To: SeaWolf

Absolutely. And, there is a sure-fire way to tell how detestable he has become: the more you see him on TV and/or hear him on the radio, the worse you know he is.


107 posted on 02/12/2006 11:16:02 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Zechariah11
We're in DEEP, DEEP trouble if it's Allen in 2008.

Ditto that. But, it won't be Allen. More than likely, the major candidates in the end will be Sanford, Owens, Romney. Wildcards are Gingrich and Giuliani. Veep candidates will include Pence, Rice, and any of the closest contenders who don't get the nomination.

108 posted on 02/12/2006 11:33:48 AM PST by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Save your breath, Corin. You are arguing with a Michael Savage admirer. That says it all, doesn't it??

Allen/Rice 2008......
109 posted on 02/12/2006 12:10:59 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: Corin Stormhands

Yep.


110 posted on 02/12/2006 12:19:05 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Gipper08

for later


111 posted on 02/12/2006 12:34:39 PM PST by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: wtp7
George Allen is good, but lacks charisma.

This show that you have not met him in person as I have five times when he was my Congressman in the 80s.

To the contrary, I have met few people with the warmth and charisma of George Allen.


BUMP

112 posted on 02/12/2006 12:43:20 PM PST by capitalist229
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To: Corin Stormhands

Most allen haters when they can't hit him on his record will just accuse him of being an empty suit/gore like. it comes mostly from romney and rudy fans. Rudy's record as a liberal republican becomes plain for all of us to see the less we like him, and romney is alright but he's a gun grabber and a lot of republcians will ask themselves what does a republican have to do to get elected in MA.

If you want rampant allen=doorknob/algore, i suggest you peruse redstate. Funny, consdiering that he tends to win their little straw polls. I guess most allen supporters don't really feel like jumping into it.


113 posted on 02/12/2006 3:24:59 PM PST by SDGOP
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To: Reagan Man

Guiliani will win the nomination if he runs. That's my prediction.


114 posted on 02/12/2006 3:28:56 PM PST by Torie
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To: Zechariah11

Yep, but Allen isn't going anywhere. The right wing of the party, does not have a viable candidate, and the right wing, i.e., the type of folks who won't vote for Rudy or McCain, period, are only about 30% of so of the party.


115 posted on 02/12/2006 3:33:42 PM PST by Torie
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To: muleskinner; Reagan Man; Sam the Sham
Get a f-ckin' clue. Rudy kow towed to the police and medical services (medicaid!) unions, is vehemently anti-gun, on record as being pro-illegal alien (claining that the immigration laws of 1996 were "extreme" and that illegals were welcome in NYC), pro-bilingual ed, pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, pro-UN. Is there any issue he is conservative on with the exception of foreign policy?

Lets look at his personal life: Lapsed Catholic, three times divorced, who lived with two gay men after his last divorce. Cheated on all of his spouses. Refused to hire anyone who was not weaker than him, showing his insecurities as a man. Associated with Ray Harding (corrupt political thug) and Bernard Kerik (nuff said).

Rudy Giuliani would combine the worst of the Grant Administration with the worst of NY Rockefeller Republican liberalism.

SAY NO TO RUINA GIUSSOLINI!


116 posted on 02/12/2006 3:35:17 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: Torie
Yep, but Allen isn't going anywhere.

I'll be here to remind you of that statement two years from now.

It's Rudy that's not going anywhere.

117 posted on 02/12/2006 4:33:33 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberalitees)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Fair enough. But I am satisfied with my track record in reading the psephological tea leaves. That does not mean I always get it right. I am not clairvoyant.
118 posted on 02/12/2006 4:35:05 PM PST by Torie
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To: Clemenza

Southern social (and economic) conservative here, who will gladly vote for Rudy if he wins the primary (and may even vote for him in the primary, if a solid conservative candidate like a Mike Pence isn't in the running.)

Perhaps you are the one who needs to get a clue. Most of us Southern conservatives would view your post as nutty and wildly exaggerated, and completely blow it off. Calling someone a Hitler or Mussalini almost always torpedoes your credibility (and makes us wonder if you need psychiatric help.) Few are going to get all bent out of shape about Rudy dressing up for a costume party, unless they are vehemently against him for other (political) reasons. Here in Texas, I've run into only a small number who have strong feelings against him. Cranks on these threads are in no way representative of the mainstream.


119 posted on 02/12/2006 5:17:02 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Pharmboy

How can *anybody* call themselves a conservative and support McCain for president? < shaking head >


120 posted on 02/12/2006 5:19:18 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Hey Libs! - Remember how conservatives looked during Clinton? Guess what you haters look like now?)
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