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CONGRESS'S Secret Saddam Tapes
New York Sun ^ | February 7, 2006 | Eli Lake

Posted on 02/07/2006 5:02:09 AM PST by IrishMike

"The House Permanant Select Committee on Intelligence is studying hours of audio recordings between Saddam Hussein and his top advisors that may provide clues to the whereabouts of Iraq's WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION. The committee has already confirmed through the intelligence community that the recordings of saddam's voice are AUTHENTIC, according to it's chairman, REP. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, who would not go into detail about the nature of the conversations or their context." " The audio recordings are part of new evidence the House Intelligence Committee is piecing together that has spurred Mr Koekstra to reopen the question of whether Iraq had the BIOLOGICAL, CHEMICAL and NUCLEAR weapons American weapons inspectors could not turn up." They were provided to his committee by a former Federal prosecutor, John Loftus, who says he received them from a former American military intelligence analyst.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; johnloftus; saddam; saddamtapes; waronterror; wmd; wmds; wot
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To: stuartcr
Wrong, because there are always accepted benchmarks. A test of anything is accepted as reliable because it has met these benchmarks. Therefore if the same tapes are tested by 2 separate factions the only results that will be accepted will be the ones that adhered to the proper testing procedures.
201 posted on 02/07/2006 11:40:51 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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To: IrishMike; Calpernia; Alabama MOM

there are several interesting links here:

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=John%20Loftus


202 posted on 02/07/2006 11:44:15 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (If you don't stand behind our Troops, please, feel free to stand in front of them!!!)
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To: IrishMike

This sounds extremely odd. Why does Congress have them? How did they come into the possession of the man who turned them over? Why isn't this being handled by the proper intelligence professionals?

This is not a job for Congress.


203 posted on 02/07/2006 11:46:39 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Abathar

Even a double album can be put on a cd.


204 posted on 02/07/2006 11:47:40 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: joseph20; stuartcr; sure_fine
18 hours of voice recordings from Hussein, Aziz, all the henchmen, FABRICATED? Yes, I suppose it's theoretically possible.

Hollywood, the bloggers, and a number of leading edge Dem front groups are already prepping the LZ with this claim, and other variations on "the DNI/DIA/CIA is manufacturing WMD evidence." (Laughable that last part: I doubt any career people at CIA would do anything but destory WMD evidence.) Breaking the WMD news will turn into another Hiss-Chambers case; no Dem will ever cop to its truthfulness, no matter how convincing the evidence is (there is plenty that's tantalizing already). The only question is whether we can convince people who don't follow the news.

205 posted on 02/07/2006 11:55:00 AM PST by FredZarguna (The refs didn't run the ball 75 yards from scrimmage into Seattle's end zone)
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To: FredZarguna

That would be a breath of fresh air, and would absolutely move our country in the right (no pun intended) direction.


206 posted on 02/07/2006 11:59:02 AM PST by rikkir (Could somebody help me get this RINO horn out of my bu...er...back!)
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To: rikkir

ONLY after the destruction of the Party of Treason will it be acceptable to split the GOP. Until that day comes any such actions will be destructive to America. Unfortunately we are far from that day since half the electorate is ready to vote RAT even when the RAT candidate is a bona fide traitor.


207 posted on 02/07/2006 11:59:58 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: jveritas

Do you really think Khaddam would be alive today if he knew something about WMD stockpiles in Syria?


208 posted on 02/07/2006 12:02:14 PM PST by rockthecasbah (4th & 9. 1:32 left in the 4th quarter. Down by 3 at Notre Dame. No problem. Fight on!)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

OK


209 posted on 02/07/2006 12:03:09 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: FredZarguna

How do you get to the people that don't follow the news? You can't just go to a web forum, everyone on those, pretty much agree with each other.


210 posted on 02/07/2006 12:05:30 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Abathar
I need those CD's they use, 12 hours of recording on one disk? Its hard to get a single Pink Floyd album to fit on the ones I burn.

Umm its called compression, and audio speech is less needy of hi fidelity than music, so more compression can be used. Your burn of Floyd to disk is not the same as taking that same Floyd album and ripping it to MP3 and then putting those files on CD. You'll have room to spare if MP3 files are on the CD.

211 posted on 02/07/2006 12:11:12 PM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

Call mp3 whatever you want but it's not "good stereo quality."
Give me the WMDs damnit.


212 posted on 02/07/2006 12:11:35 PM PST by romanesq
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To: stuartcr
How do you get to the people that don't follow the news?

Right, how do you?

The answer is, they check in from time-to-time. Typically just a few days before an election or when some media frenzy is going on. Their attention spans are short, their memories are short and their reasoning powers are pretty awful (think, say, 19% popular Perot vote in 1992), and unfortunately for the Republic, they decide elections when both bases turn out.

They also get a lot of "news" from Jay Leno, David Letterman, and The Daily Show.

Timing and placement are critical.

213 posted on 02/07/2006 12:17:57 PM PST by FredZarguna (The refs didn't run the ball 75 yards from scrimmage into Seattle's end zone)
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To: Mo1

Loftus is the "intel guy" on the john batchelor radio show. his track record is, shall we say, marginal.


214 posted on 02/07/2006 12:17:59 PM PST by oceanview
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To: stuartcr
You can't just go to a web forum, everyone on those, pretty much agree with each other.

You evidently haven't been on many of the WMD threads (or the evo-crevo riots) at FR.

215 posted on 02/07/2006 12:21:23 PM PST by FredZarguna (The refs didn't run the ball 75 yards from scrimmage into Seattle's end zone)
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To: oceanview

If these tapes are accurate why not have a sit down with Saddam and play them.
Then reference the timing of the recordings and ask a couple of key questions.

Allow Saddam to be filmed discussing the tapes and if he basically relents and gives it up, release it to the newscasters.

I would just dare them to try and bury it.


216 posted on 02/07/2006 12:21:58 PM PST by romanesq
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To: FredZarguna

In the last 5 yrs or so, it's safe to say, that freepers, generally agree with each other. I'm sure it's the same on other forums. People tend to gather with those they have things in common with.


217 posted on 02/07/2006 12:25:31 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Skippy

       






FUSE THE PIG BOMBS!   










      "EAGLES" UP!

218 posted on 02/07/2006 12:46:54 PM PST by devolve (<-- (-in a manner reminiscent of Senator Gasbag F. Kohnman-)
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To: oceanview
Loftus is the "intel guy" on the john batchelor radio show. his track record is, shall we say, marginal.

LOL! Same thing I was thinking. I remember when Loftus insisted Saddam was assassinated during our first strike on Baghdad, based on what "reliable" sources told him. . .His books are full of footnotes citing anonymous sources, while the sources he names are often anti-US propagandists of the VVAW/VIPS variety. I don't trust Loftus as far as I can throw him. It's possible he has accurate information in this instance, but I wouldn't place much stake on anything he says without independent corroboration from a source with more credibility.

219 posted on 02/07/2006 12:48:22 PM PST by Fedora
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To: romanesq
Call mp3 whatever you want but it's not "good stereo quality."

Most people would not be able to tell a wav recording from a 128kps mp3 one. It is also possible to increase the quality to 192 or 256 kps (mini disc sound quality) and substantially increase sound quality.

It also depends on what you are recording. I happen to be a fan of 1940's and 50's music, both pop and R&R and given a good source disc a duplicate made at 128 is virtually indistinguishable from the original and at 192kps it is definitly indistinguishable.
220 posted on 02/07/2006 12:58:10 PM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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