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The 'gay agenda' doesn't mention you
illinois Daily Vidette ^ | 2/1/06 | Kellie Powell

Posted on 01/31/2006 8:23:18 PM PST by presidio9

Many of you have heard conservative traditionalists rant about "The Gay Agenda." But no one really knows what that agenda is. Well, I've discovered a copy, and I will summarize it for you:

8am - Protein shake

9am - Work out at the gym

10am - Rape straight men, give pornography to children, bulldoze all churches and destroy the sanctity of marriage (or what's left of it after Fox's "Married By America.")

Hey, wait a minute...

Some of the most important people in my life are gay men and lesbian women. And I can assure you, being gay does not mean you are sick enough to want to force or coerce someone into having sex with you. Being gay doesn't make you a pedophile or a pervert. (There are plenty of straight rapists and molesters.) Being gay doesn't automatically make you immoral, an atheist or a drug addict. Being gay doesn't mean you're HIV positive, dangerous, promiscuous or any different from any other human person. Being gay is something that a person is, but it is not who a person is, and it has no more effect on the quality of your character than your shoe size.

So why do people fear, hate and persecute homosexuals? Bigots typically give one of two reasons: 1.) The Bible says it's wrong. 2.) They find it "gross."

Now, I like God, and I like Jesus. But I think some of their followers are a few beads short of a rosary. I'm down with the loving thy neighbor and the doing unto others. But I think God and Jesus are about sick to death of people using their names to persecute each other. From the Spanish Inquisition to the KKK, every nutbag with a weapon and a chip on his shoulder has claimed they were acting out God's will.

I understand that the Bible is a cornerstone of Christianity, and it's important to take this artifact seriously. But in addition to the Word of God, it contains the biases of the men who wrote it. Biases regarding vegetarianism, men with long hair and believing the sun revolved around the Earth, just to name a few. A lot of people have read the same document and interpreted it in very different ways. And believing that your way is right just because you say so... that's not faith. That's arrogance.

The Nazis chose a symbol that had once represented peace. That didn't make them a peaceful group of people. Conservatives can use the name of Jesus and the sign of the cross, but it doesn't mean that their hate-mongering has anything to do with being Christians.

And now, the even sillier reason to hate gay people: 'cause you think gay sex is unappealing. You can call it "gross," "disgusting" or just plain "icky," but the fact is, these are also adjectives that have been used to condemn heterosexual intercourse.

Think back to being a child, to the first time someone told you what sex was. If you were anything like me at age five, you thought, "Why would anyone want to do THAT? I'm never going to! Ewwwww!"

Sex is icky. In the abstract, sex is like sticking your finger up someone's nose. It's roughly equivalent to chewing up some Cheetos, spitting into a cup, swapping cups with someone and eating each other's chewed-up orange gunk. The only difference is, there's no biological imperative to stick your finger up someone's nose or eat someone else's chewed-up Cheetos.

Take a look around. Is there a gay man on your street corner, asking you, "Hey... wanna turn gay? All the cool kids are doing it!"

Now, listen up straight men - it's time to get over yourselves. You are not so devastatingly attractive that setting foot in the Bistro is going to get you gang-raped. If a gay guy flirts with you, the rational thing to do is be flattered and politely decline. Realize that a gay man probably finds you attractive for the same qualities that draw the attention of straight females. So act the way you would if a girl hit on you, but you weren't attracted to her. You don't see women going postal every time a guy winks at us, and we're way more likelier to be raped than you are.

The only reason you could have to be afraid of a gay man kissing, touching, or talking to you is if you're afraid you might like it. And whether it's now, or in thirty years when you murder your neighbor like the military dad in "American Beauty," you will have to deal with your sexual confusion eventually.

So what do "the gays" want? Like most people, gay and lesbian people want to be treated like human beings and citizens of this country. They want the things we all want: Families. Careers. Safety. Love.

And if you think you're qualified to tell them they don't deserve these things... then I think there's a deity out there who's awfully disappointed in you.


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To: treffner

It is an extremely interesting book. I also read "The Hidden Hitler" by Lothar Machtan.


81 posted on 01/31/2006 9:55:08 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: VRW Conspirator
I would like to point out that in that movie, everyone was portraited as weird-screwed-up-abnormal except (drum roll please) the two gay guys. FWIW

Which is EXACTLY why the critics loved it (surprise, surprise).
82 posted on 01/31/2006 9:59:17 PM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
Sex is icky. In the abstract, sex is like sticking your finger up someone's nose. It's roughly equivalent to chewing up some Cheetos, spitting into a cup, swapping cups with someone and eating each other's chewed-up orange gunk. The only difference is, there's no biological imperative to stick your finger up someone's nose or eat someone else's chewed-up Cheetos.

Good heavens, what has this young woman experienced in her life that she has such a bizarre notion of sexual intercourse? This is what happens to a generation when they're taught in school that the right way to act is to put condoms on bananas--for practice.

Hey Kellie: NEWS FLASH--there is no biological imperative for a man to put his penis into another man's (or woman's) poop-chute. In case you haven't noticed, that action tends to cause all kinds of physiological and epidemiological problems.

What we have here is a truly pathetic case of leftist brain-washing. If only this young woman knew how much she's been cheated of what is true and good in this world. She quite literally calls that which is beautiful wicked, and lauds that which is repulsive and disgusting.
83 posted on 01/31/2006 10:05:59 PM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: presidio9

They always leave off Caligula, Nero (who invented gay marriage, for heaven's sake!), and Elagabalus--the man who "erected" a giant phallus in the Roman Forum. These were all Roman emperors who made great strides for homo-rights!


84 posted on 01/31/2006 10:09:34 PM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: presidio9
And I can assure you, being gay does not mean you are sick enough to want to force or coerce someone into having sex with you.

Hot off the wires...

Deputy's gun used in rape, records show

Two days before a King County deputy sheriff's live-in lover allegedly shot and killed a convenience-store clerk, he used the deputy's handcuffs and gun to rape a man in their Kenmore home while the cop slept upstairs, according to police reports.

The incident in August is one of many revelations regarding King County Sheriff's Deputy Ferenc Zana's disastrous affair with a mentally ill felon. They were contained in more than 900 pages of documents the Sheriff's Office was forced to produce Monday under a court order obtained by the Seattle P-I.

"The documents describe how Zana, a veteran King County deputy, contacted teenager Bistryski on the Internet and started a dating relationship with the schizophrenic felon with suicidal tendencies. They moved in together in June 2004."


85 posted on 01/31/2006 10:09:40 PM PST by weegee (Happy Holidays! Tis the season of MLK, Chinese New Year, Tet, Valentine's, Presidents...)
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To: Critical Bill

About 90% my friends in high school who ever said they were bi-sexual or gay changed their minds once they got just a little older and figured out who they truly were. Most of them are married (to the opposite sex) and working on having kids.


86 posted on 01/31/2006 10:10:14 PM PST by GovGirl (Newsweek lied, people died...can we make that into a t-shirt?)
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To: AZ_Cowboy
I don't know about the geocentric theory originating in the Bible,

It doesn't, never did, and the brouhaha with Galileo was *not* the Inquisition defending Scripture, but defending Aristotle, whom, if I recall correctly isn't even mentioned in Scripture. That's just another of the egregrious untruths told about Christianity today, in a non-stop, full court press...

the infowarrior

87 posted on 01/31/2006 10:10:59 PM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: presidio9

1.) The Bible says it's wrong. 2.) They find it "gross."

Is that right? Well someone set this strawman on fire by shoving a torch up his ass. I doubt most people believe its wrong just because its gross though that is as good a reason as any. It is for one inherently disfunctional from a sexual standpoint. Homosexuality is fueled by sexual predation with over 40% of Homosexuals saying they have been molested. The gay rights movement has been pushing an agenda that not only encourages homosexuality in school or after school through so called "gay straight alliances" but also offers students information on transgender and bisexual issues.

Homosexuality also has the same statistical distribution between men and women as other sexual disorders with men showing much higher rates of homosexuality than women suggesting that it is of the same class as other disorders.\
Also the largest segment of homosexuals are younger than 30 after that there is clear evidence that many men who experimented with it in their youth put the behavior behind them and go on to lead otherwise normal heterosexual lives or die from related diseases. This shows that the “intrinsic theory” of homosexuality is almost certainly false and is nothing more than a fairy tale meant to assuage the doubts of those in the movement many of which are merely victims of pedophilia and who are confused about what is normal sexuality.

Sexuality being such a personal thing and a core feature of ones adult identity it is easy to understand how hard it is to reconcile the abuse especially when one is so young and the abuser is a close relative or friend who has purposely groomed them with gifts and niceties and attention so as to gain sexual access. The horrible thing is that many homosexuals are indeed suffering and instead of being offered help to deal with the root problems of their condition they are being encouraged to life as if it is a permanent scar continuing on from the moment their innocence was taken.

Homosexual activism is about trying to dismantle sexual norms and I think it has little to do with civil rights but more with the egos of those who not only want to be tolerated but want to change society to accept their lies and their corrupted sexual mimicry.


88 posted on 01/31/2006 10:13:29 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm (Learning to laugh at yourself means you will never be lacking entertainment.)
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To: Antoninus
What we have here is a truly pathetic case of leftist brain-washing. If only this young woman knew how much she's been cheated of what is true and good in this world. She quite literally calls that which is beautiful wicked, and lauds that which is repulsive and disgusting.

And that my FRiend Antoninus is why I believe this nation is quite literally screwed. These foolish children do not know right from wrong and they are the ones who will soon be in charge. Once the college age children finally get the keys to the country, it's all over.
89 posted on 01/31/2006 10:18:55 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
And that my FRiend Antoninus is why I believe this nation is quite literally screwed. These foolish children do not know right from wrong and they are the ones who will soon be in charge. Once the college age children finally get the keys to the country, it's all over.

Don't be so pessimistic. You start to sound like an old curmudgeon. If the 1960s generation doesn't destroy this country, none will. I've known plenty of people from my generation (X) that sounded like this young "skull full of mush" in college, then ended up rebelling against the rebels.

Fact of life #27: People are stupid when they're young.

Fact of life #27a: Old people always think that the current generation of young people will lead to the destruction of society.
90 posted on 01/31/2006 10:31:50 PM PST by Antoninus (The only reason you're alive today is because your parents were pro-life.)
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To: Antoninus
Maybe, but we are getting further and further away from the last generation that as a whole taught their children how to know good from evil.

Maybe this generation isn't as bad as they appear, but they sure have a lot of PR people working overtime to make them seem as stupid as stumps.

I AM an old curmudgeon. Well, maybe not as old as that, but close enough if you count the mileage.

Fact of life #27b: Old people occasionally know what they are talking about.
91 posted on 01/31/2006 10:38:19 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: infowarrior
Thanks, pardner. I didn't think that it was in there, either. I managed to get a thread up on it from long ago. How little things change!

I am very much amused with the left's newfound obsession with the scriptures, though. It will only make matters worse for them.
92 posted on 01/31/2006 10:41:13 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("There they go again...")
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To: Antoninus
I've known plenty of people from my generation (X) that sounded like this young "skull full of mush" in college, then ended up rebelling against the rebels.

I seem to recall a certain British Prime Minister making the same point a bit more eloquently.

93 posted on 01/31/2006 10:52:14 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: infowarrior; AZ_Cowboy

As The Galileo Review Commission reported in 1992, "the geocentric (the sun goes round the earth) representation of the world was commonly admitted in the culture of the time as fully agreeing with the teaching of the Bible … certain expressions, taken literally, seemed to affirm geocentrism."


94 posted on 01/31/2006 11:01:07 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K virus -only without the handy deadline.)
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To: presidio9
A lot of people have read the same document and interpreted it in very different ways. And believing that your way is right just because you say so... that's not faith. That's arrogance.

The Bible says that homosexuality is an abomonation to the Lord, now how many ways can you interpet that?
95 posted on 01/31/2006 11:07:34 PM PST by garylmoore (Homosexuality: Obviously unnatural, so obviously wrong.)
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To: presidio9

What do gays really want? Long walks, flowers, a nice man, a lot of denial of denial of... of long walks, flowers, etc.


96 posted on 01/31/2006 11:55:09 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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98 posted on 02/01/2006 3:22:12 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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To: presidio9
Many of you have heard conservative traditionalists rant about "The Gay Agenda." But no one really knows what that agenda is.

Horsefeathers!

All anyone need do is type the word "gay" or "homosexual" coupled with "ACLU" into any search engine on the web and lo and behold there they are VEHIEMIENTLY ATTACKING all Christians, Conservatives, school boards,or anyone/thing that doesn't kowtow and pledge total unconditional acceptance of their perversion.....

99 posted on 02/01/2006 4:03:33 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K ("Ye shall know them by their fruits" ;-))
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To: presidio9; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
I lived in Illinois for two years, and found it INCREDIBLE how much pull the sodomy lobby has with the REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Ask Judy Barr Topinka about her senior aid Eric Garcia, ie the Mark Morford of Illinois.

100 posted on 02/01/2006 4:06:02 AM PST by Clemenza
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