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Biden Silent on Reid Stepping Down
Red State ^ | Jan 29th, 2006 | Nick Danger

Posted on 01/29/2006 2:28:02 PM PST by george76

Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE) failed today to address rumors that Nevada Senator Harry Reid will step down next month as Senate Minority Leader.

Reid has been stung by revelations that his political action committee (PAC) accepted more than $60,000 in contributions from Indian tribes linked to convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff.

Appearing on CNN's Late Edition, Biden avoided discussing either the Reid situation or any upcoming changes in Senate Democratic leadership.

Reid is no stranger to scandal, having been the subject of a 1979 Justice Department probe into allegations that Reid — then Nevada Gaming Commission chairman — had received bribes through mob lawyer Oscar Goodman and Tropicana attorney Jay H. Brown.

The probe officially cleared Reid, but he subsequently received numerous contributions from gambling industry figures, including Brown.

Some Democrats are worried that Reid's continued presence in the Senate leadership undermines Democratic hopes of scoring significant gains this November.

"Reid is going around the country talking about a 'Republican scandal' — about Republicans accepting one- and two-thousand dollar contributions from Jack Abramoff, when his own PAC took in $60,000," ...

Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean, appearing on Fox News Sunday, made no announcements concerning Reid's status, but did comment on the growing controversy.

Moderator Chris Wallace asked Dean, "if we find that there were some Democrats who wrote letters on behalf of some of the Indian tribes that Abramoff represented, then what do you say, sir?"

Without mentioning Reid by name, Dean replied, "That's a big problem. And those Democrats are in trouble. And they should be in trouble."

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


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To: VegasBaby
Wow!
That was interesting...

Of course all that money flowing to the sons was purely coincidental - and would have certainly occurred even if Reid wasn't a Senator "doing friendly tasks".

< /sarcasm>

Semper Fi

181 posted on 01/29/2006 10:58:20 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Pukin Dog

WALLACE: Let's talk about lobbying reform. Why do you think it is that the White House is refusing to release all of its contacts with lobbyist Jack Abramoff?

DEAN: I think they're embarrassed. I think, again, the president shaded the truth. He claimed that he didn't hardly know Jack Abramoff, and now we've got pictures, apparently, with the president and Jack Abramoff smiling and laughing and so forth and so on.

WALLACE: But you know, Governor, you know that people take pictures. I'm sure that you've taken pictures with tens of thousands of people you didn't know who they were.

DEAN: Yeah, you can — that's true, and if there's one picture or two pictures, maybe it doesn't make much of a difference in a rope line with a ton of people. But if it's a repeated series of pictures, 10 or 12 of them at different events, you can tell if there's a close relationship or not.

Look, I think the president should release the information about when Jack Abramoff was at the White House. We know that he met now — I think we believe — I believe it's been confirmed that he's met with Karl Rove in the past in the White House.

We need to know who Jack Abramoff met with in the White House and did he meet with the president in the White House. That's public information, and we're putting in a FOIA request to make sure that the American people know the extent of this lobbying scandal. Does it reach into the White House in addition just to the Republicans in Congress?

WALLACE: You and other top Democrats are going after what you call a Republican culture of corruption, but you deny any Democrats are involved. And let me take a look at an exchange of that.

Question, "In the last couple of weeks, but through various Abramoff-related organizations and outfits, a bunch of Democrats did take money that presumably originated with Jack Abramoff." Dean, "That's not true either. There's no evidence for that either."

Governor, it is certainly true that Republicans got twice as much money from Abramoff-related contributions than Democrats did, but Democrats aren't clean in this area either, are they?

DEAN: Yeah, they are pretty clean, Chris, and I'll tell you why. First of all, every dime of Jack Abramoff's money went to Republicans. Not one dime went to any Democrat or any Democratic organization — his personal money.

Secondly, he did direct contributions to mostly Republicans, but a few Democrats. But the Democrats, A, didn't know that he directed that — his clients to give them money and, B, they never produced anything for Abramoff.

The problem the Republicans have with this is that they actually did things. Senator Burns did a number of things for Jack Abramoff in exchange for a contribution. And the proximity of those contributions to the actual act of doing something for the lobbyist — that's what's illegal, and that's what's going to get them in trouble.

There's not one shred of evidence that any Democrat, A, knew that he was getting a contribution from Jack Abramoff and, B, did anything in exchange for it. And that's why this is a Republican finance scandal and not some sort of bipartisan scandal.

Look, historically, we know that both Democrats and Republicans have done things they ought not to do. What we're saying in the Democratic Party is let's put a final stop to that. We're going to get rid of all corporate jet travel, get rid of all lobbying expenses, and golf trips and lunches.

One thing we're going to do that the Republicans haven't even talked about is we're going to stop people putting things in conference committee reports in the dead of night when nobody knows about it.

Here's the cost of this. It's not just dishonesty in government. The real cost is a couple weeks ago the Republicans stuck in a $22 billion tax money giveaway to HMOs. Nobody knew anything about it. That's the problem with corruption. It's not just dishonesty. It costs the American taxpayers billions and billions of dollars. And that is the shame of this scandal.

WALLACE: Governor, we're running out of money. But I just want to press this issue of...

DEAN: Yes, we are, rapidly. So we need a new party controlling Washington.

WALLACE: I just want to ask you about this question of the Democratic involvement. I want to put up something from the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics. This comes directly from their Web page, and it says, "Here is a detailed look at Abramoff's lobbying and political contributions from Abramoff, the tribes that hired him, and SunCruz Casinos, which is a company that Abramoff owned since 1999."

It lists recipients by the amount of money they received. Well, the top two are the Republican campaign committees. The third and fourth biggest recipients were Democratic campaign committees. And if you go down the list, Democrats received more than $1 million from Abramoff-related interests.

DEAN: There's two points to this. First of all, actually, we — the DNC actually got $100,000-some odd. Now, I can assure you Jack Abramoff never directed that money. It is possible that some of Jack Abramoff's clients may have decided on their own to give Democrats money. The key is...

WALLACE: I'm sorry, did you say, I'm sorry. Did you say that you're sure that Abramoff didn't direct them to give that money?

DEAN: No, what I said was that it is possible that some Democrats got money from some of the — yeah. No, what I'm saying is that Abramoff may not have directed some of this money toward the Democrats.

WALLACE: In fact, he did, sir. We've got evidence of that.

DEAN: But the point is that not one Democrat either knew it or acted on it. Nobody got anything out of the Democrats from Jack Abramoff. No Democrat delivered anything, and there's no accusation and no investigation that any Democrat ever delivered anything to Jack Abramoff. And that's not true of the Republicans.

WALLACE: So if we find — and I just want to — we have to wrap this up. But if we find that there were some Democrats who wrote letters on behalf of some of the Indian tribes that Abramoff represented, then what do you say, sir?

DEAN: That's a big problem, and those Democrats are in trouble, and they should be in trouble. And our party, if the American people will put us back in power in '06, we will have on the president's desk things that outlaw all those kinds of behaviors. Right now it's a Republican scandal. Maybe they'll find that some Democrats did something wrong, too. That hasn't been the case yet.

But our reforms in the Democratic Party are going to be aimed at both Democrats and Republicans. We want to clean up Congress, and we will within 100 days of the new Congress in 2007.

WALLACE: Chairman Dean, we're going to follow up on that. Thank you. Thanks so much for joining us. And don't be a stranger. You're always welcome here.

DEAN: We'll see you soon. Thanks, Chris.


182 posted on 01/29/2006 11:22:53 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

"I guess Howard Dean will now acuse Reid of being a Republican plant.
"

Hahahah! So true! It does appear that Karl Rove had a hand in this too! LMAOOOOOOOO


183 posted on 01/30/2006 12:57:52 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: mainepatsfan

Excellent question. Isn't Turban next in line? Somehow I bet he's overlooked, in light of his fiasco last year. LMAO....no matter who they pick, it'll be a looza for the rats.

This is going to be good but I wish they'd keep Dingy Harry in light of his penchant for highlighting the insanity of the left. He's a mouthpiece for the extremists and a total turnoff nation-wide. And that works well in our favor.


184 posted on 01/30/2006 1:05:29 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: ken5050

Durbin?


185 posted on 01/30/2006 4:21:43 AM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: moose2004

I can't see it..Durbin's a hack..so was Reid..but you don't keep moving up the clowns..unless you are really stupid..With all the Dem senators running for the WH...they all want someone who is NOT a threat..


186 posted on 01/30/2006 5:11:59 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: george76
Democrats are blind to bad behavior of their own.

I haven't corrected my mother, who still thinks the former Democratic chairman of the House Ways and Means committee, Wilbur Mills must have been a Republican.

Mills is best known for a scandal involving a drunken incident on October 7, 1974, with an Argentine stripper known as Fanne Foxe. Mills was stopped by Washington, D.C., police late at night and found to be intoxicated. His face was bloody from a scuffle with Foxe. When police approached the car, Foxe leapt from the car and jumped into the nearby Tidal Basin.

187 posted on 01/30/2006 6:26:56 AM PST by syriacus (For my punishment, I must write "I am a Terri-bot, who resorts to histrionics" 100 times. I am a Ter)
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To: george76

Harry Ried who called our President a "jerk" to an audience of high school youngsters, should have been relieved of his position then. A bigger jerk never lived - well maybe Ted Kennedy.........


188 posted on 01/30/2006 6:42:03 AM PST by yoe
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To: GeorgeW23225
Not only is Reid a dope, but, just look at the guy and you know he's as crooked as hell.

He's got a future as an actor, playing a Dickens villain.

His lack of a British accent shouldn't be a deterrence, since he mumbles anyway.

189 posted on 01/30/2006 6:44:21 AM PST by syriacus (For my punishment, I must write "I am a Terri-bot, who resorts to histrionics" 100 times. I am a Ter)
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To: GretchenM
I wonder who the Senate dems are thinking of hoisting on their shoulders, or his own petard, to lead them.

How about John (the Yodeler) Kerry? He's expendable.

190 posted on 01/30/2006 6:45:07 AM PST by syriacus (For my punishment, I must write "I am a Terri-bot, who resorts to histrionics" 100 times. I am a Ter)
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To: Nick Danger; george76

Great work, ND!


191 posted on 01/30/2006 6:50:43 AM PST by NautiNurse
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To: Flavius Josephus

Chris is also helped by the fact that he is on FOX so the Dems assume they are talking to idiots through an idiot interviewer. Makes them look even more stupid.


192 posted on 01/30/2006 6:58:44 AM PST by Another Thought
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To: ken5050

I've heard Dorgan's name mentioned, he's a quiet (but liberal) mid- westerner, maybe they'd pick him.


194 posted on 01/30/2006 7:27:51 AM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
Was he found with a dead prostitute? what was the line from? he would not be reelected only if he was found with a dead prostitute or a live boy.
195 posted on 01/30/2006 8:09:21 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: Another Thought

Chris must be doing pretty well if he's getting guys like Dean to come on his show. Means they can't avoid him.


196 posted on 01/30/2006 8:29:56 AM PST by Flavius Josephus (Enemy Idealogies: Pacifism, Liberalism, and Feminism, Islamic Supremacism)
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To: SF Republican
what was the line from?

I don't know. I was thinking of the senator in The Godfather II.

197 posted on 01/30/2006 9:00:43 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: george76

Biden? Silent? Must be a different Biden.


198 posted on 01/30/2006 9:03:04 AM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: SF Republican
what was the line from? he would not be reelected only if he was found with a dead prostitute or a live boy.

Dead girl or live boy...Edwin Edwards, former Governor of Louisiana. Convicted of extortion, fraud and racketeering in 2001.

199 posted on 01/30/2006 9:36:40 AM PST by NautiNurse
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To: syriacus
It's interesting, isn't it, that his collegial Senate chums never voted him the party leader on his own turf. Never recognized his natural appeal as a leader , never showed their support for him as presidential material by electing him to stand up for the party on national issues and while dealing with the Executive Branch.

What horrors await if they would do such a thing!

200 posted on 01/30/2006 9:47:51 AM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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