U.S. Brings Back the .45

Strategy Page ^ | January 27, 2006

[Squantos]

Yep.... I have a paging alarm system on my vehicle that calls my cell phone for just such a reason. I have a custom welded in recessed locking floor box that fits flush with the floor board and hides under the floor mats for my toys that I leave in the vehicle. It will hold a MP5 full up or M4 carbine with the pins pulled and taken down .

Works well to not leave goodies in view....dark limo tint on all but the front drivers and passenger windows where "legal tint" must be used also helps.

[Double Tap]

Oh my. I'll bet you were glad the Taurus held up as well as it did. That could have been disastrous.

[MarkL]

I can't count the number of times some guy in IPSC matches would blow a case in his 1911 from a double charge of powder.

If it was a .38 Super, it probably wasn't from a double charge, as much as over pressure on reloaded cases. In order to get major caliber scoring in a .38 Super, you really need to push the envelope when it comes to the loads and pressure. You've got to very carefully inspect those cases, and it's easy to miss some that have bulged a bit. Even with ramped barrels, you'll sometimes get a blown case. In 6 years of shooting USPSA competition and practice 2 nights a week, and bowling pin matches once a week, I only saw 5 blown cases, 4 of which were .38 Super. I did see a double loaded .45 with 231 blow the magazine out of a 1911. But that was the only time I ever saw a double charge.

Mark

[Paul_Denton]

We are better through our actions, not what type of ammunition or weapons we use. Enhanced lethality bullets, incidiary weapons, other weapons banned by it, by all means our forces should use them. Burning to death is probably the only thing terrorists would fear, and since the terrorists are suicidal, we should use bullets that dump more energy into the body instead of wasting it on over-penetration.

[hiredhand]

Flush with the floor eh? That's cool! I'll tell them about that sort of box. She "thinks" somebody tipped off the thieves and then waited until they were out to supper in another vehicle because it was pretty much out of sight, and really didn't look like a gun box. But I'll tell him about the sort of box you're using. Thanks! :-)

[MarkL]

Well, not all .45's do I suppose, but I'll bite. What is that long magazine thingamajig that holds cartridges in a vertical feed and inserts into the handle of the Colt 1911 .45 ACP if it is not a clip?

It's a "magazine." A clip is something else completely. However, I DO have a .45 that uses "clips." Specifically, "full moon clips," as it's my .45ACP revolver, a S&W 625-5.

Mark

[ExSoldier]

Sig may have the inside track since they're the main suppliers for federal LEOs. But don't count H&K out of the game. I think they have more to offer for combat durability (jungle, desert, arctic, etc) and they have an inside track with the military since they provided the original SOCOM MK 21 handgun.

[Phsstpok]

Is there an easy way to load?

I've never owned one, but would love to. That and the SAR-180. They have a 275 round magazine for that little Lewis Gun.

I can't find a reference, but I remember reloading tools for the Calicos meant to let you dump a box of 22s into a hopper and then you attached it to the helical magazine and reloaded by pushing a button with your thumb. Basically it just provided you a feed for the bullets and a larger area to push on with your thumb when loading up the magazine.

I have a Ruger 10/22 with a 50 round magazine. That is the most fun to shoot of anything I've ever had. Plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, and so on.

[Chode]

4516 here... mine runs just fine too

[SLB]

Yep, my money would be on SIG. They have the logistics support already in place that others don't, and in source selection that is a biggy.

[dalereed]

my M1911 .45 works just fine thank you, no changes necessary,

[glock rocks]

I've run several thousand factory and several thousand not factory rounds through my .45 Glock, and still have both hands. I'll probably need to sacrifice a goat to the handgun gods that I've been so lucky.

My experience is that Glock and SIG go boom every time. It'll probably take more than a few kabooms per million handguns in the field to alter that prejudice.

I'm looking at Les Baer and Granite State just to ease the uneasiness of my shooting buddies though :o)

[hispanichoosier]

Burning to death is probably the only thing terrorists would fear, and since the terrorists are suicidal, we should use bullets that dump more energy into the body instead of wasting it on over-penetration.

I have no problem using enhanced-lethality bullets against terrorists, since they're not signatories to the Geneva Convention. However, against other nations' regular forces, we should abide by the Convention and use only fully-jacketed ammo. Remember, even as the Wermacht was in retreat, Hitler refused to use nerve, poison, or mustard gas against Allied troops.

[Squantos]

I think HK is too expensive of a weapon for general purpose issue.....it is a hammer gun vs a internal striker so it has potential in the dirt and sand vs the striker systems.

I'll make ya a cold servesa bet it's a SIG vs the HK.....but your correct it has the same potential ability etc .....:o)

[hiredhand]

If you don't mind me asking....

Where did you get the 50rd mag for the 10/22? My daughter has one, and we haven't found a high cap mag that we were really satisfied with yet.

I "wish" somebody would make a proper drum mag for the 10/22. :-)

[MarkL]

My S&W .45 ACP stainless Mountain Gun has half-moon and full-moon clips also. I am not sure if the half-moon or the full-moon is quicker on reload, especially if the shooter is in a hurry. The full-moon takes a steady hand, while the half-moon handles easily, and stores more compactly. The revolver has a lot to recommend it in spite of the short barrel.

I love my 625-5. A buddy of mine got Ron Power to do one of his "carry" action jobs on it as a favor, and it's one of the sweetest shooting revolvers I've ever had. Only one I have is better, but it's a Power Grand Master 629.

Mark

[Travis McGee]

You can bet that whatever they pick, it'll piss off 75% of us. Just like the Beretta did when it was picked over the Sig, for political reasons.

[endthematrix]

HK is getting plenty of weapon contracts lately...

[Euro-American Scum]

HK is getting plenty of weapon contracts lately...

Speaking of which, do you have any info on the XM-8 prototype? I'm hearing conflicting things about it.

[ghostcat]

LoL!!! I've probably got a need to sacrifice to the reloading gods as well.