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SUPREME COURT UPHOLDS OREGON'S SUICIDE LAW
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Posted on 01/17/2006 7:07:26 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

BREAKING ON THE AP WIRE:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court has upheld Oregon's one-of-a-kind physician-assisted suicide law, rejecting a Bush administration attempt to punish doctors who help terminally ill patients die.


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To: EternalVigilance; Soul Seeker; Salvation

People of faith need to pray for more voluntary vacancies on The Supreme Court.


1,081 posted on 01/19/2006 4:49:58 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: B Knotts

What Oregon voters need is an educaiton on The Law Of Unintended Consequences.


1,082 posted on 01/19/2006 4:51:00 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: Clintonfatigued

**People of faith need to pray for more voluntary vacancies on The Supreme Court.**

Amen to that!


1,083 posted on 01/19/2006 10:51:55 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Beelzebubba
"Why not let the people of each state decide these difficult moral choices, since you and I are currently unavailable to impose our values on them the way the leftists seem to want to on us?"

They can. There's nothing in the federal law against allowing the people of each state to decide these difficult moral choices. The people of each state have always had the decision.

They just can't use controlled substances to do it. I suspect we'll hear from Congress on this.

1,084 posted on 01/20/2006 4:20:28 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
They just can't use controlled substances to do it.


And why does anyone morally care whether doctors use carbon monoxide, bloodletting, or morphine?

How do those morally opposed to the practice justify opposition to a particular means?

Why bother? Just to be a pest to inconvenience others with different moral views?

I'm not being critical, just curious?
1,085 posted on 01/20/2006 6:08:54 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: robertpaulsen
They just can't use controlled substances to do it.

Do you really believe that this is the objection of the Justice Department?

1,086 posted on 01/20/2006 8:00:33 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball; Beelzebubba; robertpaulsen; All
robertpaulsen decrees:

They just can't use controlled substances to do it.

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How do those morally opposed to the practice justify opposition to a particular means?
Why bother? Just to be a pest to inconvenience others with different moral views?

1,085 Beelzebubba

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To: robertpaulsen: - Do you really believe that this is the objection of the Justice Department?
1,086 highball


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To All:

No paulsen doesn't really believe "controlled substances" are morally evil.

He truly believes in government control.. On any grounds.
It's that pesky authoritarian socialist thing.
1,087 posted on 01/20/2006 9:04:38 AM PST by don asmussen
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To: Michamilton

I once read that Utah leads the nation per capita in suicides. If true, this wouldn't surpise me.

Having said that, is there any evidence that those who commit suicide in a red state are conservative or could it be that many don't feel like they fit in?


1,088 posted on 01/20/2006 9:19:14 AM PST by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: bvw
People's religious beliefs are part of who they are. I don't think it would be possible for people to make laws without considering their religious beliefs. Ideally, people do what they think is right, especially when they are making laws. Naturally their religious beliefs are going to come into the decision making process when they decide what is right. That's the way it should be and
it would be wrong to demand that people not consider these beliefs so fundamental to who they are.

But when we make laws, we make laws for everyone, at least within our respective jurisdictions. Not everyone has the same religious beliefs. That must be taken into consideration when we make laws too. I think that gives us a responsibility to look at more than just our own particular religious beliefs when we make laws. A law should be fair and make sense even if we take our personal religious beliefs out of the equation. It should stand on it's own. And as Americans claiming to value freedom, one of the many things we should consider in law making is whether our laws are consistent with the notion of a free country. I realize that is rather abstract, but I tend to agree with Jefferson when he said, "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others." That's just one quote out of context, and it may not all be just as simple as that, but I think something we should really pay attention to when contemplating banning conduct is whether that conduct does cause some genuine unjustifiable harm to innocent people, or causes some substantial risk of same. If I can't see the conduct in question as being harmful or at least particularly risky to innocent people, it's usually going to be hard to convince me that it's the type of law we should have in a free country.
1,089 posted on 01/20/2006 9:58:57 AM PST by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz
We so make laws for everyone, and everyone is covered by the same basic religious laws. This condition of law is the understanding during the years this nation was founded and while the Constiitution was framed, and during its ratification.

There is a seperation between church and state however. That seperation was then reflected in the 1st Amendment, State Constitutions and discussions of of law contemporary to the founding of our Constitutional Republic -- it is not G-d and G-d's laws that are seperated and walled out of Federal authority, legislative and judicial informing -- it is the divisions and particulars of sects. It is fully allowed and reccommended by the Founders that what we today call "religion", in that part which contains its most common basics between sects, whether Christian and Jewish at least and inclusive to some extent of others: Native and Muslim, that those basic tenets of "religion" be included in our laws and even are necessary foundations of our laws.

These religiously informed legal concepts encompass laws against murder, against theft and kidnapping, against adultery, against false testimony. hese may today to seem as "secular", they are not. On the positive side, laws which define marriage, which provide for equity in contract, that provide for agency and fiduciary duty -- also religiously informed.

1,090 posted on 01/20/2006 1:41:16 PM PST by bvw
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To: Beelzebubba
"And why does anyone morally care whether doctors use carbon monoxide, bloodletting, or morphine?"

Or whether doctors use a bludgeon, smother with a plastic bag, or a .45 in the mouth? Some ways are unacceptable that's all, controlled substances among them.

I'm sure these "doctors" can find another way to kill their patients. They're smart.

1,091 posted on 01/20/2006 5:16:41 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: highball
"Do you really believe that this is the objection of the Justice Department?"

I believe this is their stated objection.

Do you really believe that these death doctors took the Hippocratic Oath? Or did they take the Hypocritic Oath?.

1,092 posted on 01/20/2006 5:23:02 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: don asmussen

Trying to get banned? Keep it up.


1,093 posted on 01/20/2006 5:24:44 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen; All

To: highball; Beelzebubba; robertpaulsen; All

robertpaulsen decrees:

They just can't use controlled substances to do it.


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How do those morally opposed to the practice justify opposition to a particular means?

Why bother? Just to be a pest to inconvenience others with different moral views?
1,085 Beelzebubba


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To: robertpaulsen:

- Do you really believe that this is the objection of the Justice Department?
1,086 highball


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To All:
No paulsen doesn't really believe "controlled substances" are morally evil.
He truly believes in government control.. On any grounds.

It's that pesky authoritarian socialist thing.
1,087 don asmussen


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Trying to get banned? Keep it up.
1,093 paulsen


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Feel free to tell us all, -- what part of what's written above is 'bannable', -- considering your positions posted on this thread?
Or, better yet, you might try to refute our observations.



But in any case, its obvious that you are trying to manufacture a way to get me banned, just as you have in the past.


1,094 posted on 01/20/2006 5:54:15 PM PST by don asmussen
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To: robertpaulsen
Beelzebubba:

"And why does anyone morally care whether doctors use carbon monoxide, bloodletting, or morphine?"

Or whether doctors use a bludgeon, smother with a plastic bag, or a .45 in the mouth?
Some ways are unacceptable that's all, controlled substances among them.
I'm sure these "doctors" can find another way to kill their patients. They're smart.

Get a grip paulsen. -- Doctors in Oregon are not allowed to "kill their patients".
Its assisted suicide, not murder.

1,095 posted on 01/20/2006 6:02:30 PM PST by don asmussen
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To: don asmussen
"Doctors in Oregon are not allowed to "kill their patients". Its assisted suicide, not murder."

And I suppose you think abortion is merely "assisted termination of a fetus".

Whatever. This is Oregon's issue. If the citizens of Oregon wish to allow suicide in their state, that's their decision. Just don't use federally controlled substances, that's all.

1,096 posted on 01/21/2006 5:26:05 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
as I said on the other thread, we are on the slippery slope as this country moves fast to the left.

Oregon's legislature passed a law and the Supreme Court updeld it. That's the way it is supposed to work. The 10th clearly states that except where clearly enumerated, the State's reign supreme over the Federal government.

1,097 posted on 01/21/2006 6:09:19 AM PST by voicereason
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To: robertpaulsen
I'm sure these "doctors" can find another way to kill their patients. They're smart.

Get a grip paulsen. -- Doctors in Oregon are not allowed to "kill their patients".
They are allowed to assist in suicide, not murder.

Whatever. This is Oregon's issue. If the citizens of Oregon wish to allow suicide in their state, that's their decision.

Thanks for conceding the main point.

Just don't use federally controlled substances, that's all.

Back you go, - in circles. The narcotics used are the best substances available.

In this issue, feds are trying to control suicide, not 'substances'. -- And they are not empowered to control either one..

1,098 posted on 01/21/2006 7:30:43 AM PST by don asmussen
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To: don asmussen
"Thanks for conceding the main point."

The "main point" of the article was federal objection to the misuse of controlled substances, not federal objection to Oregon's suicide laws.

Thank you for not letting me down by missing the point altogether.

1,099 posted on 01/21/2006 7:37:39 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

If the citizens of Oregon wish to allow suicide in their state, that's their decision. Just don't use federally controlled substances, that's all.



That sounds like you wish to wield federal power merely to be an annoyance, and to achieve no meaningful end.


1,100 posted on 01/21/2006 7:58:53 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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