Posted on 01/13/2006 8:24:51 PM PST by WatchYourself
How can someone observe, study or experiment on evolution? Evolution is the process of something moving from one stage of development to another. What do we really have to scientifically prove evolution?
A scientist might have a fossil, but we can only speculate as to the age and appearance of the animal creating that fossil. No one has ever witnessed evolution of life, no one here now was there to observe, study and experiment. Like it or not, we can only form theories and beliefs about what might have been. As sound as these theories might be, they are and will always be theories. Evolution is simply a system of belief based on what we think might have happened. Those who believe in evolution have faith in the scientists abilities to speculate and imagine what might have been. This is not science. This is faith.
It is time we removed the phony and inaccurate label of science from evolution and see it for what it really is - a religion, based on faith and a system of belief. If public schools are not allowed to teach religion, then the theories of evolution have no place in a public school classroom. If they are allowed to teach theories based on faith, like evolution, then creationism should be taught also.
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to predicting that we would find whale like fossils with rudimentary legs. Since they have not yet been found, it is purely speculation that they exist somewhere.
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Err.. they HAVE been found. That is kinda the whole point.
If I see a painting but not the painter am I to assume that the painter never existed and that the painting always was there and had no beginning?
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False analogy again. We know that paintings are painted by painters because we can all watch painters doing it. We can even do it ourselves. We can compare paintings to other paintings to tell who the painter was.
No, I'm not controlled by a demon. But thanks for the heads up.
I don't believe Gen 2 is a chronological order unlike Gen 1. The link I posted in 480 explaines the writing style used by the Hebrew writers back then. I know its a long read but it really does a great job of explaining it.
Sorry the link is posted in 450
There are now millions of fossils in the fossil record. If You're going to discuss Darwin, you really should do a little research beyond dumb George Carlin quotes and lying creationist pamphlets.
Virus(been reading about bird flu lately?), bacteria, sunflowers, fruitflies---all have been reported here on FR threads---in citation of various experiments. A poster (I believe Ichneumon) has a huge list for you perusal.
Post 661: Ichneumon's stunning post on transitionals.
Lots more information here: TONS OF EVIDENCE OF EVOLUTION. And here: NOT JUST FOSSILS ... EVIDENCE OF OBSERVED SPECIATION.
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And nothing moreso than evlution.
In astronomical calculations of orbits.
http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/mod_tech/node60.html
WTH is a imperfect self-replicator?
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Hmmm.. someone who doesnt know that very simple piece of information probably is not qualified to discuss evolutionary biology at all. Its equivalent to someone saying "Geography is all rubbish. What is Planet Earth?"
An imperfect self replicator is something that copies itself, but sometimes not with 100% fidelity.
Its equivalent to someone saying "Geography is all rubbish. What is Planet Earth?"
Well no it is not equivalent to that at all. Thats all you have though, so go with it.
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Yes it is. Geography is the study of planet earth. Not knowing what the planet earth is is kinda stupid.
Evolutionary science is the sudy of imperfect self replicators. Not knowing what an imperfect self replicator is is kinda stupid.
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An imperfect self replicator is something that copies itself, but sometimes not with 100% fidelity.
Sounds like a concept Dawkins would come up with. The word 'self' needs taken out.
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Dawkins hardly came up with idea. It has been known for years. And why does the word "self" need to be taken out?
Its equivalent to someone saying "Geography is all rubbish. What is Planet Earth?"
Well no it is not equivalent to that at all. Thats all you have though, so go with it.
Not understanding a fundamental concept of any topic renders one unqualified to discuss it. This is also like saying "all math is nonsense -- what is a number?"
An imperfect self replicator is something that copies itself, but sometimes not with 100% fidelity.
Sounds like a concept Dawkins would come up with. The word 'self' needs taken out.
Non sequiter. But thanks for playing.
We were taught that sort of thing as part of health education.
Two college guys in a bathroom:
One finishes peeing, starts out. Other guy says, "Hmmmph, at Princeton, we were taught to wash our hands after peeing."
"At Hahvahd, we were taught not to get pee on our hands".
That is because you are using some kind of new wave bible that has been reworded to make sense. Try the King James Version.
2:4 says: "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
and 2:5 says: "And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."
These verses are about the creation of the heavens and earth, before man was created. They are NOT about the generations of Adam. They are NOT about family history, they are about earth history.
Can you help me answer the question I posed in post #491?
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Sure. As far as I know, no scientist is able to make predictions about what path the evolution of a current species will take. It is a common aspect of science fiction, but given that it is impossible to know in advance what mutations will occur, it is not really part of science.
Does that answer your question?
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