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Liberals, Conservatives, Moderates, it's a special time, can we find a little peace?
CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | Dec. 24 2005 | Carlo3b

Posted on 12/24/2005 8:04:58 AM PST by carlo3b

 
Liberals, Conservatives, Moderates, it's a special time, can we find a little peace?

I have been wanting to do this for quite some time. Somewhere deep inside I believe that there can be a bit of common ground between the Left side of the political spectrum, and the Right. Why would we want this, assuming of course that there is someone other than me that would like to see that happen. I believe that there are many things about our wonderful nation that we share that could serve as a starting point to start a healing between us.

I think we should try it, if only for the sacrifice so many have made to afford us this opportunity. If I am right, I'll bet there are some things, more than we imagine, that we have in common, and given a real chance we may find them..

If we can at least agree that we as a nation, have been slowly dividing culturally for quite some time. Perhaps we can even go a bit further, I think our society is sick, and it can use threatening to become truly polarized, to the point of permanent harm to the very fabric of our being..

Help me make a list of those things that make us a country that is united..

Please I am serious, list anything that you can, that you believe you agree  would be a compromise on your part for the good of our nation..

Moderator, please give us a bit of latitude, and maybe we can start a dialogue that will benefit all.. Merry ()

I'll start..
1) As much as it would burn my butt, I believe I could live with Gay Marriage if the Gay community could stop the Gay agenda, infiltration into our public schools, and private businesses.. You know what I mean.. I.E.: School, Diversity training, Gay-Straight, and tolerance BS.. and Boy Scouts, Salivation Army.. etc., I don't want to count the number of right wing conservatives in the offices of the ACLU. You don't want the 10 commandants being taught or a class on religious freedom, and creation, I say we both back down, and teach our own kids..

2) I don't like being told that I can't have religious symbols in the marketplace, but can we agree that any private business should be able to display any religious display it wishes without litigious reprisals? If the anyone in the public hates it, they could avoid that business as they wish..

3) I could live with abortion in cases of forcible rape, and the life of the mother or the baby, and even financial crises.. I am an adoptive parent, and I really can't think of a way to justify giving birth to every baby without a plan to care for it with love and security until maturity..

4) I believe there are still reminisces of sick racial prejudice in pockets of our society but I also believe affirmative action is insidious and cruel in main. I would agree to the harshest of penalty if anyone is caught withholding a job or position simply because of a persons race.. But I must say that I have no idea how to prove a case.. I have seen it happen on both sides and I wanted to scream, perhaps I will the next time, and maybe that is a start..

developing..



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To: inquest
Correction to previous post (#79). The top line quoted from my opponent should have been:

It is not equal rights to marry, if the government says you can't marry the person you want.

That should make the rest flow better.

81 posted on 12/24/2005 9:24:38 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: carlo3b

You might as well have said "Can't we at least agree with gun registration, the assault weapons ban, one-a-month purchase limits, and bans on handguns and .50 cal rifles" There is no compromise with these people, there is only surrender. Whatever ground they gain, they will seek more later. Democrats aren't called the evil party for nothing, and Republicans aren't called the stupid party for nothing either.


82 posted on 12/24/2005 9:26:27 AM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: carlo3b

Do you realize that Einstein was a poor baby? Should he have been aborted too??

Your list is the basic liberal dogma, wrapped in a big bow.

Merry Jesus' Birthday


83 posted on 12/24/2005 9:29:59 AM PST by bray (Merry Christmas Iraq)
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To: dalereed; Pukin Dog; The Drowning Witch; PatrickHenry; Ladysmith; DTogo; RobFromGa; Miss Marple; ...
Lets try this.. I believe that we are hearing from a small contingency of far left very vocal activist that are setting the agenda to keep us from talking to one another.. Perverted stuff like Hollywood Gay cowboys, swearing at our President, fighting for murderers and beating up the Boy Scouts, or unlimited welfare, and unemployment benefits that teach another generation that they are worthless..

They are no different than our own far right zealots that shame me occasionally, on personal stuff like praying in school, I don't want my kids praying in school or anywhere in public to prove a point, or cutting off our country with a friggin Berlin wall and an army shooting migrant workers at our boarders, we can find a better way it has to happen.. We can find a forum to talk if not here, then somewhere .. soon!

84 posted on 12/24/2005 9:31:55 AM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

You do realize there is no such thing as the mothers life don't you?? Do you know how many women's lives have been destroyed by abortion?

Merry Jesus' Birthday


85 posted on 12/24/2005 9:33:38 AM PST by bray (Merry Christmas Iraq)
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To: carlo3b

You should be zotted.


86 posted on 12/24/2005 9:34:50 AM PST by Godebert
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To: bray
Do you realize that Einstein was a poor baby? Should he have been aborted too??

Come on bray, you know what I mean.. I don't want to say that poverty is a reason for abortion, but I can say that if a stupid welfare mother has 3 kids and pops another one because she didn't stop to think about it.. that some child should be brought into this world without hope.. Have you adopted a black, crack baby lately, anyone? Lets see hands.. I thought so..

87 posted on 12/24/2005 9:38:20 AM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: carlo3b

No way!

I even go the extent of refusing to do work on a building that a liberal owns, tell them why and that they are a POS to their face.


88 posted on 12/24/2005 9:41:05 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Godebert
You should be zotted.Really.. why? Because I want to start a dialog? Should be aborted with a Smith and Wesson, because you don't agree with my dogma?.. smart.. see what I mean.. it's both sides..
89 posted on 12/24/2005 9:41:38 AM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: carlo3b
They are no different than our own far right zealots that shame me occasionally, on personal stuff like praying in school,

Carlos, you exposed yourself for who you are. Your problem is that you don't stand for anything and will fall for everything. You are a liberal, thinking that he is a Moderate, not that there is anything right with that. Come back when you cook up some Rocky Mountain Oysters!

Merry Jesus' Birthday

90 posted on 12/24/2005 9:42:26 AM PST by bray (Merry Christmas Iraq)
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To: inquest
I stated my reason why it should happen. Liberty, pursuit of happeness and equal access to government. You have it backwards. The onus is on you to say why the government should restrict these people from marrying whom the chose.

You are using the techicality of public license to say that marriage is public. In any practical sense it is not. And it certainly does not harm anybody else's marriage.

91 posted on 12/24/2005 9:43:16 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: dalereed
I even go the extent of refusing to do work on a building that a liberal owns, tell them why and that they are a POS to their face.

Checkmate.. sheeesh

92 posted on 12/24/2005 9:43:34 AM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: carlo3b

I agree and I think the way to go is to deal with issues individually on their merits and not as a monolith.


93 posted on 12/24/2005 9:44:39 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: carlo3b
I would agree to the harshest of penalty if anyone is caught withholding a job or position simply because of a persons race..

The solution isn't to punish the employer. The solution is to call for changes in the community responsible for shifting the employers attitude towards one of racism.

Those good people denied jobs because of discrimination need to focus on the bad seeds in their community that embarrass them all.

94 posted on 12/24/2005 9:44:51 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: carlo3b

Every time I've had a "near death" experience, I start thinking like this. It must mess with the neuron connections in one's brain. You'll be OK in a few months. Merry Christmas and thanks for a nice dream.


95 posted on 12/24/2005 9:46:04 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: bray
I'm a liberal because I dare to think, and speak about things that I am thinking about.. Maybe you are a zealot because you don't think or allow anyone else to free speech without labels.. I'm as liberal as you are my dear FRiend..
96 posted on 12/24/2005 9:47:19 AM PST by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com,)
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To: carlo3b

BTW I think the movie is a non-issue. Let the market decide. They made the movie for a few mill and it may struggle to make the expenses even with oscar buzz. If they want to make these movies and people pay to see them, that's the way the market crumbles. I can easilly survie with the latest car-cahse flick or my TiVo.


97 posted on 12/24/2005 9:48:19 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: bigsigh

however, I cannot survive with my spelling.


98 posted on 12/24/2005 9:49:29 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: carlo3b
Carlo....give it up, man....Christmas Eve is no time to allow yourself to get flamed.

Put DOWN the keyboard, and STEP AWAY from the mouse...

Witch

99 posted on 12/24/2005 9:51:47 AM PST by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: Steel Wolf
What we should do instead is go after businesses that hire illegals.

Unfortunately, that does nothing for the OTMs, which is what the wall is really needed for.

100 posted on 12/24/2005 9:52:08 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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