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Groundbreaking Book: Science Shows Man Not an Ape

Posted on 12/21/2005 6:22:46 AM PST by truthfinder9

One of biggest paradigm shifts in origins in recent years is when genetics and morphological studies began to show that Neanderthals and humans weren’t related. Sure, a lot of Darwin Fundies around here don’t know that because they get all of their science from the talking point lists of their Fundamentalist Leaders. So this is probably a big shock too, science is also showing that man is not related to any hominids including apes.

In the groundbreaking book, Who was Adam?, biochemist Fazale Rana examines the scientific research that is overturning Darwinian Fundamentalism. Here, using peer-reviewed research that the Darwin Fundies claim doesn’t exist, Rana shows man is unique and designed.

And he details the latest findings on the fossil record, junk DNA, Neanderthals, human and chimp genetics. There's more science here than most Darwin Fundies have ever read, but this will be the next great paradigm shift.

“The parallels between Genesis and the latest scientific data are profound...” - John A. Bloom, Ph.D., professor of physics, Biola University

On Rana’s previous book, Origins of Life:

“Evolution has just been dealt its deathblow. After reading Origins of Life, it is clear that evolution could not have occurred.” - Richard Smalley, Nobel Laureate, Chemistry, 1996, professor of physics and astronomy, Rice University

Real science by real scientists. According to Darwin Fundies this doesn't exist, but here it is.


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To: Fester Chugabrew

"I'd like to know how something can be "related" to another biologically without in some way "descending" from it."

Well, for example, your cousin isn't your mother, unless you're from West Virginia.


381 posted on 12/21/2005 11:42:27 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Do you see that there is no constitutional right to not be offended?

Interesting point, but a senario that property law would offend a religion does not equate well with Darwinism against Creationism, which is a daily and vastly more common senario our kids are faced with today.

The answer is: Public Schools would have to Fail either child.

Parents understanding this predetermined senario is imperative.

382 posted on 12/21/2005 11:42:49 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: mlc9852

Hey, now! With the secularists in charge, we'll fight like hell, 'cuz there's no tomorrow. It's you Christians who want peace on earth, good will towards men!

:)


383 posted on 12/21/2005 11:45:19 AM PST by dmz
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To: metmom

At 47 years old, I kinda have to agree with the idea that everything is breaking down. Apparently starting with my knees.


384 posted on 12/21/2005 11:47:09 AM PST by dmz
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To: Tallguy
Some time ago in West Africa, an extended warm period forced some apes out of the trees and onto the savannah, where walking erect probably allowed the brain to remain cooler (and gave certain advantages in predator early-warning). So human intelligence may have rapidly evolved as a consequence of a behavioral adaptation brought about by a sudden environmental shift.

Hmm. I was under the impression that the main reason for environmental pressure toward bipedalism was that the spread of the savannah favored animals that could see over the grasses and spot predators, hence the selective pressures in favor of bipedalism (but that's as much a conjecture as any other, I suppose). Intelligence, I thought, was more a byproduct of a shift to a high protein meat diet after the development of hunting skills that then allowed for the deveopment and maintenance of a larger brain.

385 posted on 12/21/2005 11:52:13 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: dmz
Are you related to your niece? I am (my niece, not yours). I am clearly not in any fashion descended from my niece.

So all arguments for "common descent" coming from the evolution camp entail direct genetic lineage? No cousins allowed at the table for arguing common descent?

386 posted on 12/21/2005 11:57:23 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Strategerist
Being a trained paleontologist or geologist with field experience who is a creationist is like being an architect who doesn't believe in gravity; it's almost impossible to function.

Hmm... how very peculiar then that the fields of both paleontology and geology existed, and apparently functioned quite well, prior to the theory of evolution. Confusing, no?

387 posted on 12/21/2005 11:58:50 AM PST by jbloedow
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Fester, before you start arguing about science, how about learning basic English, followed by learning about science?

Arguing from ignorance is bad enough. Arguing from ignorance AND your own inability to comprehend English is far worse.


388 posted on 12/21/2005 12:04:26 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: dmz

The Bible says there's a time for peace and a time for war. Now is the time for war.


389 posted on 12/21/2005 12:05:15 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: jbloedow

"Hmm... how very peculiar then that the fields of both paleontology and geology existed, and apparently functioned quite well, prior to the theory of evolution."

Actually, paleontology and geology led to the theory of evolution.


390 posted on 12/21/2005 12:05:17 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: add925
Would you agree this senario would result in an F on the exam?

Nope.
391 posted on 12/21/2005 12:08:39 PM PST by newcats (Happy Reversal Of The Planet's Axial Wobble Day!!!!!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
In other words, you wanted YOUR religious view taught as science, with the power of the state to back you up. Thank you for clarifying that.

No, I wanted Public Schools to clearly state they will preach Darwinism and provide no Religious schooling. They have now done this.

I do want parents to have this knowledge so they can decide where to send their kids. Once they understand this, I believe the number of private schools and/or home schools will increase.

Regarding art, music, athletics, etc...why are Public Schools teaching this?

392 posted on 12/21/2005 12:10:16 PM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: newcats
Would you agree this senario would result in an F on the exam? Nope.

You failed to explain your argument in detail. You hereby receive an F.

393 posted on 12/21/2005 12:12:02 PM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Porterville

I stopped saying "like" in 6th grade.


394 posted on 12/21/2005 12:12:16 PM PST by truthfinder9
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Actually, paleontology and geology led to the theory of evolution.

And to think all this time I thought Chucky was trained for the clergy, and now I discover he was a paleontologist and a geologist. I guess I need to learn to use Google better.

Now that I think of it, I remember reading in some "creationist pamphlet" that Chucky D (I'm sorry if some consider it blasphemous to take the Prophet's name in vain) actually suggested that the fossil record known in his day might not yet be considered to provide the best support to his original theory...

395 posted on 12/21/2005 12:12:39 PM PST by jbloedow
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To: truthfinder9

Like fur sure.... but I am suspect to you ever graduating that level.


396 posted on 12/21/2005 12:15:40 PM PST by Porterville (Keep your communism off my paycheck)
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To: jbloedow

"And to think all this time I thought Chucky was trained for the clergy, and now I discover he was a paleontologist and a geologist. I guess I need to learn to use Google better."

Back then, there was a LOT more cross-disciplinary work going on than there is now. Chuckie may not have been a practicing paleontologist/geologist, but he knew and corresponded with men who were.


397 posted on 12/21/2005 12:17:38 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: Porterville

keep guessing subbrain.


398 posted on 12/21/2005 12:17:45 PM PST by truthfinder9
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To: Blood of Tyrants

bttt


399 posted on 12/21/2005 12:19:19 PM PST by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- America, we get the best government corporations can buy.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
So then, what does "common descent" mean, if not some kind of relationship? I sense a semantic shell game here.

This is semantics at all - it's very straight forward.

"Common descent" means that two species share a common ancestor. This is the same principal of two cousins sharing a common ancestor - their grandparents.

The relationship of humans and modern apes is the same that cousins would have to each other - they both share a common ancestor.

400 posted on 12/21/2005 12:21:53 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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