Posted on 12/13/2005 9:23:22 PM PST by doesnt suffer fools gladly
Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines'
"Hanoi Jane" Fonda is claiming that ever since Vietnam, U.S. troops have been trained to commit atrocities against innocent civilians as a matter of military policy.
"Starting with the Vietnam War we began training soldiers differently," the anti-American actress says in an email to the Washington Post.
Fonda claims she learned of the policy switch in "secret meetings" she had with military psychologists "who were really worried about what was happening to our combat personnel."
One doctor, she insists, told her U.S. troops had been deliberately trained to be "killing machines."
"This began," Fonda maintained, "because the military discovered that in World War II and Korea, [U.S.] soldiers weren't killing enough."
"So they changed training procedures" to teach troops how to commit atrocities.
Still, the anti-war gadfly cautions, it's important not to blame the soldiers themselves for carrying out war crimes.
Recalling the "Winter Soldier" hearings that she and John Kerry staged in 1971, Fonda lamented: "When you put young people into an atrocity-producing situation where enemy and civilian are commingled, where the 'other side' is dehumanized, we cannot be surprised."
Anti-war vets now returning from Iraq, Fonda cautioned, should be listened to instead of being dismissed as "unpatriotic."
"We have not learned the lessons of Vietnam," she declared.
Yeah I would say you summed up my thoughts exactly...
Sad that Ted is the SANER of the two!
What do you mean, "practically"? Americans learned, the hard way, about rifled weapons, artillery, rail transport and supply, snipers, etc. in the Civil War. Europeans were still using Napoleonic parade-ground tactics in 1917, to which the US said, "no thanks".
This has accelerated to the point where it's just "good business" to waste some terrorist with a $50,000 Hellfire fired from a UAV than to risk a grunt's life. It also lets the enemy know that even if we don't have troops present, some cold, soulless machine is hunting for him, ready to snuff him out with less thought than crushing a cockroach.
Some people feel this takes all the chivalry and honor out of war. Good! Let the enemy know that we don't intend to honor him with a face-to-face fight. He's just a few pixels on a display, or an image in a scope. He's worth no more effort than it takes to press a button, or squeeze a trigger.
LOL, worry not, its the seriousness of the charge, silly!
Instead of sitting on an antiaircraft gun emplacement, the next time an Iranian nuclear weapons plant would be far better :)
Which is a pity, because I could have some real fun on several forums if it had a real WaPo link.
Can't touch it with just Newsmax as a source for an alleged email to another paper.
Just because it's the type of stupid thing she would say doesn't mean she said it.
you're g*d@mn right you sick b*!ch!!!
This is a serious article. As far as I know, Newsmax doesn't print parodies. We'll have to see if Janie disputes any of the facts included in this article.
Tell me why.
It's those exercise videos, she convinced everyone she looks great in Danskin leg warmers...
(except for me...)
Cheers!
shut up hanoy jane.. just shut up beech
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LOL...I agree. And then, that's the time the Israelis should take care of that plant.
The late 1950s experiment where a couple of army divisions switched to Nerf bullets to turn the troops into "Annoying Machines" just didn't work out.
But isn't that what the military is for? To go out and kill people . . . . hence killing machines? I'm sure these men and women are not out camping and looking for a good time in the sand.
Perhaps she wasn't acting !! Maybe she was just doing what comes natural !!
Yes, I am a killing machine. You're right. So don't mess with us.
Ah yes, General Patton to the rescue...
If I have to go to war, I would hope they send me with a few killing machines.
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