Posted on 12/13/2005 5:16:49 PM PST by ADemocratNoMore
Is the Pentagon spying on Americans? Secret database obtained by NBC News tracks ‘suspicious’ domestic groups.
WASHINGTON - A year ago, at a Quaker Meeting House in Lake Worth, Fla., a small group of activists met to plan a protest of military recruiting at local high schools. What they didn't know was that their meeting had come to the attention of the U.S. military.
A secret 400-page Defense Department document obtained by NBC News lists the Lake Worth meeting as a “threat” and one of more than 1,500 “suspicious incidents” across the country over a recent 10-month period.
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Seems to me he did. Feds arrested all kinds of loonies in PA who liked to go to the woods on weekends and play pretend-militia. The ATF infilitrated or tried to all these big groups of 3 and 5 individuals and tried to get them to talk about blowing something up, and of course, the ATF would be happy to supply them a bomb to do it with.
They did... went after the NRA and militias instead of the ROP.
Think maybe 'all of them' should have an extended visit.
NBC is a useful idiot.. just like CBS was...
The article didn't say they were going to arrest them for protesting or interfere with the protesting in any way. It just said they were going to keep an eye on the group.
Now, if the government starts harassing these people. Auditing their taxes as harassment. Causing the group legal problems that aren't legit, that's a problem.
Monitoring their actions to make sure the group doesn't have more sinister intentions....that's fine.
I know they're Quakers. The Branch Dividians were originally Seventh Day Advontists. Heck, these days, you can go to three Southern Baptists Churches and find three different sets of beliefs.
A newspaper attempting to limit the government's ability to do their freakin job because nothing pleases them more than embarasing a Republican President....now THAT's a problem.
The camels nose under the tent?
You mean like Dan Rather's last "leak" ala Kinko's?
Probably commit enough atrocities to earn herself some very serious and dangerous enemies....
Semper Fi
I'm saying there was, likely as not, NO story. We all saw the same mindset just last night during "Tookie Watch" where the mindless crowd insisted they'd just come up with all sorts of witnesses and new evidence.
AR 381-12
Like CNN once getting a leak about the time of a planned invasion of Fallujah. The leak was planted and untrue.
That is completely different from our own military spying and collecting data on US citizens, which I believe is illegal.
That's called spying. And the effort that is being put into domestic spying, is effort that is not spent on persons much more likely to be harmful to us. What about all the Saudi nationals that are still in this country? In over 200 years, the Quakers have yet to perform a terrorist act on this country. 15 of the 19 9-11 hijackers were Saudis. Four years and their taskmasters have not been brought to justice.
Governments, regardless of political stripe, all love to accrue more power to themselves, and all despise dissent and accountability. The power that the PA gives this government to incarcerate people indefinitely, without charge or due process, is a power ALL aspirants to high office would love to have.
Do you think that a President Hitlery would ever declare the "war on terror" over, if it meant giving up THAT kind of power? Why, she'd probably pay Al Qaeda to blow up the Sears Tower if people ever started feeling safe again...
Is this "Dan Rather TANG redux?" I think so. Surely the US military did not give a flying hoot whether a Quaker assembly in Lakeland Florida was going to protest military recruiting at high schools.
Maybe if they release the entire Barrett Report we will know how it's like to have a government agency (IRS) turned against citizens for political reasons.
First they came for the Quakers and we feared not. But the day they come for the Amish I am out of here. /sacrasm on.
God help us if protesting the government is ever considered "subversion and espionage".
Wonder if this has anything to do with that Webb Hubbell "Big Brother" White House Data Base fiasco. Drudge railed against that almost every week.
> Like CNN once getting a leak about the time of a planned invasion of Fallujah. The leak was planted and untrue.
If I recall corectly, CNN was most upset when they found out they were played by the military. I, on the other hand, would be proud help.
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